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You know how people looked at the dumb decisions of #StocktonRush and said don't get in the #Titan ?

Don't get into an #ElonMusk #Tesla or #SpaceX

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[–] singer_table@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I loooooove seeing Twitter unalive itself

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Elongated Muskrat throttling legitemate twitter users to keep AI out the door seems to be a good thing for the Fediverse & Mastodon in particular.

Plus that makes two services on their way to the grave on the guise of "keeping AI out." *slow clap*

[–] afraid_of_zombies2@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I had a Twitter account for about a week that I posted with, after that I made a new one and never posted. The most toxic disgusting social media site I have ever been on. The one and only good thing about it was how the local governments where I lived used to make all announcements with it. I plan to bring my kids to the reading event at the library, better check Twitter. Oh it got moved an hour later. Also the local mass transit system used it.

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

"Pay for your news feed and comments we demand it! Stop blocking our ads it's not fair" ~ venture capital schmucks everywhere

[–] Blackbart42@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been saying it for months. Teslas are inherantly unsafe and I won't ride in one.

[–] klinefgc@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm pretty happy just using Lemmy and discord, I deleted Twitter and reddit because of recent events, it's definitely helped keeping my screen time down and discord typically leads to more fulfilling conversations imo

[–] BrikoX@vlemmy.net 4 points 2 years ago (12 children)

You might want to also replace Discord if you care about your data.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, Discord can't be replaced right now. All my gaming friends are using it and I don't see any FOSS software that can replace it right now.

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[–] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I just need a good worldnews and news sub on lemmy and I’ll be set. I enjoy following the Ukraine war through the worldnews sub.

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[–] krackalot@vlemmy.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I think it would be more than a few minutes, this would still limit people's time on Twitter. I can't imagine advertisers are super happy about that idea.

[–] afraid_of_zombies2@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It is like a manager at an oil company just torching the wells or a store owner closing the doors.

[–] alternative_be@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I can't think of any reason one would want to stay on the birdsite any longer. What's the use if you can't have full access to people's posts?

[–] razza856@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Maybe the super-rich want Twitter gone because they saw how it was used to organise protests during the Arab Spring. Musk is just the guy making it happen.

[–] smokeythebear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago

I said this when the sale first happened. Those billionaire Saudis didn't loan him the 8 bil needed to finance the sale, they gave it to him as payment for a job. And it's 100% the long tail of the Arab spring reaction

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think it's anything so specific, but the rich and powerful most definitely want to keep social media under their control so as to keep populations under control.

Though that's not about always preventing protests. They likely want destabilization to happen, just only in the countries they want it to happen in.

I mean if the goal was to prevent ALL protest, twitter would be boosting only happy thoughts and photos of kittens and puppies right now. But instead it's pushing some fascist shit. Not exactly stuff that promotes stability.

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[–] MaxMouseOCX@vlemmy.net 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder if reddit, twitter and youtube all got around a table one day and decided that no, actually, screw the users entirely.

Because they are all doing really bizzare things.

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[–] BrikoX@vlemmy.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The irony is that Twitter is the one that's causing the performance issues for itself https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639474671754723

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I never thought I'd get any enjoyment out of Twitter, but that is actually amazing.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago

First time I've ever agreed with Elon on anything. I don't want to be browsing Twitter either.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Crawlers and scrapper bots consume a fuckload of traffic, that much is true. But I think it's a bit too late, there's already enough "twitter warehouse of posts in X language" to feed most AI needs, at least for coming up with short answers.

Also, I can't believe Elon did something that could be generally seen as a good thing overall (forcing people to spend less time on twitter)

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I could never understand what drew people to Twitter. I just want to stab myself in the eyes everytime I end up there.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like part of what caused it to explode is that some celebrities joined up early and it provided a tangible way for fans to interact directly with them. This was totally novel and completely unprecedented. Prior to Twitter you could watch Entertainment Tonight and read People magazine. Twitter let you directly contact celebrities.

I really couldn't care less about celebrities, which I have always thought is part of why Twitter has always felt kind of pointless to me.

But I fully recognize that for some people that's a huge draw and I do think it's a big part of what makes Twitter popular.

[–] smokeythebear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For a moment in time, Twitter livestreaming the Arab spring and other mass demonstrations was more effective than the CIA at toppling regimes

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

This assumes the CIA wasn't involved in it.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Each time a platform reaches enough popularity to attract an average voter, people starts to blame the platform for being stupid. I'm waiting for the day we collectively realize it's not the platform we hate, it's the average person.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

When you have one guy in town that's an idiot, that guy is the village idiot. The village idiot know he's the dumbest guy in town and so will tend to listen to the people smarter than him.

But with the internet you're getting a lot of people together and letting them find groups they fit into. That's mostly a good thing.

But all the village idiots get into a group together where they only people they're talking to are other village idiots. Then they start thinking their idiocy is right. And they stop listening to the people smarter than them.

Then you have a lot of confident idiots who bring everyone down to their level.

[–] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The average person it's fine, it's when they're in a group and you get the average of the average people that things get dumb.

[–] pigup@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Solution: kill all humans /s

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[–] Xylinna@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I do not understand his logic. It could be due to coding issues but his vague statement plus all the antics since he took over is just very suspect. Feels like he is working on another money grab idea.

[–] dimspace@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

t could be due to coding issues

It's self inflicted. This is what happens when you turn API's off or make them unaffordable.

instead of using a low resource API entry, sites now switch to full on scraping which uses huge amounts of resources.

[–] AtheistAndroid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's about making it more difficult to get access to download all of Twitter for use in training AI. chatGPT was trained using Twitter and Reddit. And large language models like chatGPT are HUGE money makers and have insane potential. The AI industry is exploding right now, so Twitter, Reddit, and others are adjusting how you can access their content so they can charge big companies money for the right to use their data.

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure reddit allowed openAI to train on their network and Musk was a big donor of OpenAI. So wouldnt these API changes be to monopolize the market since OpenAI has access to both these sites and is the leader in the field.

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[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It seems they're just trying to make it seem intentional when really, they're just struggling now that their Google Cloud contract has expired.

In 2018, Twitter signed a $1 billion contract with Google to host some of its services on the company’s Google Cloud servers. Platformer reports Twitter recently refused to pay the search giant ahead of the contract’s June 30th renewal date. Twitter is reportedly rushing to move as many services off of Google’s infrastructure before the contract expires, but the effort is “running behind schedule,” putting some tools, including Smyte, a platform the company acquired in 2018 to bolster its moderation capabilities, in danger of going offline. Engadget, June 11, 2023

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago
  • fire most your staff
  • boost shit content, hide real content
  • force users whove blocked you to see your content anyways
  • refuse to pay your contractors / services

Elon 'the genius' Musk

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