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Could Jesus make a Celiac so allergic he couldn't receive Him?

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[–] Drahcir_Rekattih@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

In the Catholic Church you always have the option to receive communion in the form of wine so there is a fully gluten free option.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 27 points 7 months ago

Then you can't be Catholic.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 10 points 7 months ago

Then you drink mustum instead. (I don't know the English name, only the Latin one.)

Mustum is basically a young wine; it's allowed to start fermentation, but then the fermentation is quickly stopped, before it develops any meaningful amount of alcohol.

[–] VulKendov@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago

You can just skip it

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Use the Michael Jackson defense and go "it's okay it's just Jesus Juice"

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Speaking as someone who grew up in an Irish Catholic house it still blows my mind a huge building full of people went up and drank out of the same cup.

Did this all change after covid?

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Often churches which have the “common cup” use silver or gold chalices, which naturally have anti-microbial properties. They will also often turn the chalice after each user, and then wipe it with a cloth (sometimes soaked in strong alcohol) to cleanse it further.

For those who find this gross, many churches also offer individual cups.

There is a lot of variation here, some churches only do individual cups, some only do common cup.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

For awhile it was single serving things in weird little pre packages. Now it’s back to the cup which is fucking gross imo

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Not all wine is gluten free

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

Some wines are fined with micro wheat, and sealing barrels with wheat paste is traditional. Not sure how much it adds up to, though. Other than that, wine is always gluten free, unless you’re counting barley wine.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago

Gluten is only foind in wheat and a few other grains. Wine by it's very definition has zero grain in it.

[–] lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago

Can you name one that isn't?

[–] Zier@fedia.io 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can buy rice crackers at the supermarket now. No need to go to church anymore.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 months ago

so now you tell me

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Celiac technically isn’t an allergy, but yes. Some denominations will give you a gluten free communion wafer. Catholicism, however, requires one that contains wheat although it’s possible to get a very low gluten option that probably won’t trigger a reaction.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Seems like a big risk if they fuck it up.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah, hopefully it would be clearly labeled. I went to a Presbyterian church one time and at their communion, everyone else got wonderful looking artisan brown bread. They gave me this weird half-and-half cup with brown looking wine and this tiny 1 cm chip of theoretically gluten free cracker sealed on top. It was kinda interesting so I just kept it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The actual sacrament you get is usually made with wheat so it probably has some gluten in it. Though I am sure there are gluten free options.

The guy himself? Might depend on how much bread he ate but I don't know enough about the nutritional facts of a human body to answer with certainty.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which part of His body did you get? The spleen? A bit of intestine? One of the toes?

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You drink his blood and eat his body... Vampirism and cannibalism. Way to go catholics.

(thanks Eddie)

[–] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's only cannibalism if you are also a god. Otherwise its deitism?

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

There's an Abbot and Costello skit in there somewhere. "You're on a new diet?" "No I said deit."

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's only cannibalism if you are also a god. Otherwise its deitism?

Ah, but the Athanasian creed clearly teaches the doctrine of hypostatic union, that Jesus is fully god but also fully man.

Since he is fully man, eating his body would indeed be cannibalism. Don’t take away the most metal part of Christianity.

[–] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I think eating your god is more metal than just eating a human.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty."

That doesn't sound like a gluten-free loaf.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

Its pure protein bro! /s

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/the-mass/order-of-mass/liturgy-of-the-eucharist/celiac-disease-and-alcohol-intolerance

ETA: You could probably discuss it with a parish priest. Perhaps you could receive blessing, like Protestant attendees?

[–] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My mom us a retired Episcopalian priest. She said there are gluten-free wafers you can get if someone in the congregation needs them. She also said that it doesn't have to be a wafer, one of her priest buddies once consecrated a pancake to make a point that it doesn't matter what's being consecrated, it's all God's creation.

Note: I am not religious and do not hold these beliefs myself

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Mom's priest buddy is my spirit animal. That's awesome.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

https://www.winespectator.com/articles/is-wine-gluten-free Cool! Glad to be wrong. I thought there was something about gluten in wine, but i think i was conflating it and vegan wine. Thanks for the catch!