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cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/2715522

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The original was posted on /r/ukrainianconflict by /u/EarFast1528 on 2024-04-20 20:03:06.

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[–] faede@mander.xyz 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And all it required is total bipartisan agreement on killing Palestinians.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 8 points 6 months ago

I went to school with a Palestinian woman when I first started at community college. Smart, friendly and aware of how the world viewed her. That we collectively assume these are terrorists because we're told to is rather a regurgitation of the three-fifths problem.

[–] ninjaphysics@beehaw.org 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

In an alternate timeline, the title to this post could refer to the amount of relief for student loan debt, or state grants for humanely addressing the homelessness, lack of healthcare accessibility, and climate crisis, for starters.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Sure, those are important, too. But it's kinda a big deal to put a stop to the idea that military conquest is fine, so defending Ukraine (and potentially Taiwan) are important, too.

Supporting Israel's genocide is, however, reprehensible. And is just as bad (worse?) than what Russia is doing in Ukraine ~~or that China is doing in Taiwan~~.

China's genocide against the Uyghurs gets a pass, politically, because they already control the territory. And what they're doing in Hong Kong and want to do to Taiwan are terrible, but not in the same level

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, absolutely. I'm not OP but I think they mean "in some alternate time line, Putin isn't an evil piece of shit, and we can spend this 61B on these other issues"

I read it as them lamenting the fact that Putin could just not wage war and we'd have all this extra ability to solve other issues.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

or that China is doing in Taiwan.

?

Do you mean that they're threatening to do to Taiwan? Because so far they've done nothing but posture. Or maybe you meant Hong Kong, which is certainly really, really bad, but I don't think rises to nearly the same level as Israel's ongoing genocide against Palestine.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 4 points 6 months ago

Yes, you're right. I'll edit that.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

None of those will mean much if Russia is allowed to conquer Europe. Every dollar we spend now will save us tens or hundreds later if we didn't address the problem.

[–] JCPhoenix@beehaw.org 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

FYI on the rules:

Do not editorialize titles. Preserve the original title when possible; edits for clarity are fine.

Not removing the post, but just for next time, please.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

It was a cross post. Sorry.