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The former president got very mad about his inability attack witnesses and jurors before reportedly dozing off in court again

Donald Trump claimed on Friday that he has been stripped of his constitutional right to speak to the press … while ranting to a giant gaggle of reporters. 

The former president took time before entering court in his criminal hush money trial to once again complain about a gag order barring him from attacking witnesses, prosecutors, court staff, and jurors involved in the case. 

“The gag order has to come off. People are allowed to speak about me and I have a gag order,” Trump said. “They are taking away my constitutional rights to speak, and that includes speaking to you. I have a lot to say to you, and I am not allowed to say it — and I’m the only one. Everyone else can say whatever they want about me. They can say anything they want, they can continue to make up lies […] But I’m not allowed to speak. I want to speak to the press and everybody else about it. So why am I gagged?”

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 177 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Corrected headline: Trump complains he cannot baselessly slander and instigate violence against innocent people connected to his court cases.
Meanwhile he is still allowed to do it against everybody else.

[–] Beryl@lemmy.world 171 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] ptz@dubvee.org 76 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Conservative voices are being silenced

😂 Her character was an absolute spot on portrayal (I have a hard time calling it a parody)

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 7 months ago

I wasn’t expecting that from Lisa Kudrow but she’s really good 😂

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Her scenes in Death to 2020 just couldn't have hit the nail on the head any better. I kept getting riled up and had to remind myself it's satire.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 80 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

The big news here is that we have finally found a line that Donald Trump will not cross. He continued to defame Carroll after massive judgements for defaming her, but that was just money after all. Being in contempt of this court might send him to Rikers, though, and no amount of money will fix that.

I've always said he wants to be thrown in jail, because he thinks it will play into his followers' persecution complex and lead to lots more fundraising. But Rikers is notorious, I bet he would do anything to avoid going there.

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Speaking of: what's the deadline of the collection on that one?

I used to think he was intentionally coming up with the wildest shit ever because deep down it's his way of being a loudmouth jerk to convince people not to vote for him, while still showing he's a strongman/ 'speak his mind' because otherwise he'll look like a pussy for backing down. But now I just think he's just a gigantic asshole.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Make no mistake about it he’s a loudmouth jerk, gigantic asshole AND the world’s biggest pussy. The trifecta of douchebaggery.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well said, Jim, Jim and Jim.

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[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The big problem for him if he goes to jail is that he isn't literate enough to write the modern "Mein Kampf"

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Eh, Steven Miller will ghost write it for him.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He probably won't go to jail no matter what he does. House arrest is most likely.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

With our luck, he'll be sentenced to live in public housing in DC for 4 more years

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean Trump in gen pop in a prison is a gang war waiting to happen.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

He wouldn't be in the general population at Rikers. They put his CFO in an isolation ward originally built for contagious prisoners. Still, all the facilities there are decrepit, and NYC is actively looking close it down and replace it.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've always said he wants to be thrown in jail, because he thinks it will play into his followers' persecution complex and lead to lots more fundraising.

This scares the shit outta me. It's literally straight out of the Hitler playbook. As much as I want to see him get his comeuppance, any persecution he faces is also going to cement him as a martyr and embolden his supporters. Sending him to jail is a lose-lose.

This is also why, IMO, judges bend over backwards to be lenient to him. Any petty criminal who continually circumvented a judge's directions would have been held in contempt long ago.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Then what? We keep treating him with kid gloves and getting away with it? It needs to happen and the sooner the better so we can move past it. The more we try to place nice and given him passes the worse it’ll get. Its not just gonna go away on its own.

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[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lol, free speech doesn't mean he is free from the consequences. The gag order is there to protect him from breaking the law as much as its there to protect the jurors from intimidation by him. Is free to break the gag order I'd he wants, he'll just have to pay the consequences if he chooses that option.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 6 points 7 months ago

Speech is free. Lies and slander is expensive.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

Captain Snowflake is always whining about something, and always has. Ever since at least the 80s. The fact that so many people think he's the ideal of manhood is laughable.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lol he's like a child in time out

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[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 30 points 7 months ago

Rights are granted to you as long as you follow the law that grants you them. Once you break the law certain rights can and will be taken away from you because you are no longer following the contract that allows you to have them.

There are certain inalienable human rights that every person should have. Slandering people and rallying up your cultists to attack those people is NOT one of them.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

they've taken away my right to threateny opponents and send my cronies after their families

Oh yes, what a loss. Fuck Trump

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Oh no :(

Anyway

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Didn't he say we'd never see this level of whining, ever?

Maybe just don't use your platform to spread misinformation, lies and thinly veiled threats to everyone you disagree with, then frame it under freedom of speech? Didn't don poorleone here just threaten 3 past presidents in a recent rant?

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

When he was still on shitter, I replied to him "shut up" six times in one hour. My account has been restricted ever since (I can't post). I stopped using it anyway, probably I should delete it

[–] valkyre09@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Have you considered that maybe your voice is being silenced?

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 7 months ago

My account was banned for telling him I hope he dies in jail

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I legit wondered why you were replying to him while he was on the shitter for a hot minute....

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So anything that can be spoken is legal? Death threats? Insider trading? Collusion? Conspiracy? Bribery? Stolen valor? Classified info? Voter info?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

It was updated and still illegal but only if you make the statement with the intent to gain some tangible benefit. I actually wasn't aware they would prosecute you for simply saying it, regardless of context.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Someone should take a shit down his throat because he’s been shitting in everyone’s ears for a decade

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 19 points 7 months ago

Oh no, his right to verbally attack people involved in the court case he is the defendant of has been taken away!

Trump being forced to have to sit quietly in company of people who aren't yes-men and stooges is the tiniest bit of relief I get from 8 years of having to put up with this guy in our news.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That family is so pro free speech, untill you use that free speech to ask one of them who gets the first line of coke at the family get together? Or is it a trough like situation where you all get to go?

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 months ago

It's more like the human centipede but they snort it off each other's assholes. Trump somehow always ends up behind Ivanka.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

gaggle /găg′əl/ noun

  1. A flock of geese. 
  2. A cluster or group. 
  3. A flock of wild geese, especially when on the ground.

Well done.

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[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

I thought this was going to be a "not the onion" post.

[–] Dreizehn@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

The loser, Crying 45, can continue to cry.

[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

You DO have the right to speak.

What you lack is the capacity. At least for productive thoughtful speech.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago

Awww, the broke bitch baby snowflake is crying that he has to follow the law.... Fuck this asswipe, and any dirt bag that votes for him.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Donald Trump claimed on Friday that he has been stripped of his constitutional right to speak to the press … while ranting to a giant gaggle of reporters.

The former president rails about the case to the press multiple times a day when entering and exiting the courtroom, and has also been posting his thoughts on the trial with his characteristic barrages of commentary on Truth Social.

On Friday, Trump spent the morning ranting on Truth Social about why he deserved widespread presidential immunity from alleged crimes committed while president — a proposal the Supreme Court is slated to hear oral arguments on next week and which could have profound effects on the various criminal cases against Trump.

What Trump is not allowed to do is use his public statements to attempt to influence, intimidate, or attack those involved in the trial — a standard ask of criminal defendants.

Trump’s actions during the ongoing jury selection process have even led to a reprimand from Judge Juan Merchan.

On Tuesday, Merchan sharply admonished Trump and his team after the former president was heard muttering commentary during the questioning of potential jurors.


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[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

If only they would.

[–] falk1856@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Sir, this is a society.

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