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The link is not 100% but two hunters eating from the same deer population and falling ill at around the same time is extremely unlikely to be a coincidence.

We are essentially one mutation away from this spreading between humans and that would be very, very bad.

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

chronic wasting disease is really tragic. that's chronic somebody could have smoked

[–] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My ashtray with a pile of smushed prerolls all with a half-inch+ of flower

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side-eye-2

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Roll that shit into a generation joint

[–] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

In bourgeoisie decadence, I simply light a fresh j and move on

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Prerolls are for tearing open to load into your bong

[–] Sphere@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

god fucking dammit I should not have laughed

[–] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

It's going to be in the soil for a very long time yea

Hope the prion uptake from eating contaminated plants isn't too frequent

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Think your link's busted there

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Lol whoops...fixed now. No idea how that happened but I do fondly remember those cops getting their asses kicked.

[–] Monsieur_bleu@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

cwd isn't a virus, it doesn't mutate, it's prions

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

True that it's not a virus but prions can mutate in the sense that they are just proteins like any other, produced according to their genes. The gene coding for the prion protein can mutate, producing a prion that is better at making, e.g., the human analog fold into a prion.

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

sure the coding gene can mutate but there's no feedback mechanism to make this more likely as the disease spreads like with a virus.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sure but the OP is correct.

[–] BigHaas@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They aren't produced according the their genes. They don't affect DNA like viruses do. They are a removed lower energy configuration of a protein. When the removed protein bumps into a healthy form of itself, the forces between the molecules pull the healthy protein into the prion shape. Then they go their separate ways, exponentially eating holes through tissues.

The protein targeted by CWD is different in cervids, it has like an extra loop that is important for its function. So if a CWD prion bumps into the human version of the protein, nothing happens. But, if some weird interaction allowed it to actually work, it's feasible a human prion could be created.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Prions are just proteins that can fold in a way that self-propagates by causing other instances of the same (or very similar) protein to also misfold the same way. This is how they cause infectious disease. The downstream impacts vary because it depends on what the misfolded protein actually does in addition to helping other instances misfold. Most often it just accumulates, avoiding destruction by the cell's usual mechanisms of destroying misfolded proteins (most prions that can't avoid this would be destroyed before we could even notice their existence). But even just accumulating a bunch of a prion can be devastating, as their mass can be disruptive and the actual functional amount of the normally folded protein becomes effectively nil.

But like all proteins, they are indeed still produced according to their genes. Proteins are generated through the transcription and translation processes.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Prions are the best candidate IMO for a near-to-medium-term human extinction event. If a bad one gets a foothold then median human life expectancy will be like 12 years within a century or two and there'll be nothing to be done about it

You should probably be scareder of CWD and similar diseases TBQH IMHO PBJ

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's everywhere by now, isn't it? When the containment of a new disease is precarious like this, I usually assume the worst has already happened. The people in charge just aren't aware of it yet. If they are, they still don't want to tell the public out of fear of how destabilizing such news could be to the whole system.

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The maps of affected wild herds only shows a few states, but I've seen deer here in NJ as far back as a decade ago that very much looked like they were sick with CWD. I wouldn't doubt that it's more widespread than we are aware of.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

With so many possibilities of deer and cattle coming into contact in rural settings, I especially worry about my relatives that have cattle and occasionally hunt. I guess my mother had a point about never wanting to try any venison that they cooked.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

Wow this is just like my post apocalyptic TV show

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wait, that deer population has been known to have CWD and they were still like "hey, i guess these are good to eat"? tf is wrong with carnists?

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean this isn't even a carnist thing in as much as this is just a "MUH RIGHT TO PUT MYSELF AND ALL OF HUMANITY AT MASSIVE RISK" thing

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

Big "no one is going to tell me not to drink my own piss" energy

[–] jack@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

a "MUH RIGHT TO PUT MYSELF AND ALL OF HUMANITY AT MASSIVE RISK" thing

so a carnist thing basically

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

yep, there's even testing stations and they never get their flesh tested

[–] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

i am suddenly getting a very detailed idea of how these people behaved during the lockdowns

[–] POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If anything this just shows how cowardly hunters are. Who tf shoots a clearly diseased animal and then takes it home acting like they shot it on their own merits?

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

plenty of CWD deer don't show symptoms yet

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

How would it spread between humans? Bodily fluids?

[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 5 points 7 months ago

I lived in England in the 80s and I’m always terrified that I will find out I have vCJD. It’s believed that symptoms can take decades to show.