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I’m not sure if you’ve tried this PWA called Wefwef but it feels like a fully featured Apollo client for Lemmy already. You just go to the site and add it to your home screen. No beta to sign up for. No TestFlight link. Just add the PWA.

It’s good. It’s really really good.

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[–] dm21@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

30 mins in and I’ve set up a Lemmy account, logged into Wefwef, added a bunch of subscriptions and now it’s about 85% like I’m still using Reddit. Amazing, and considerably better than I could have hoped for

[–] codRL@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The only thing missing for me after testing for 2 days is the swipe to go back a screen. You need to reach ALLLLLL the way across to the left edge of the screen and drag it ALLLLLL the way to the right to go back to your feed from a post. In Apollo I had it configured to only need a swipe from about the middle of the screen to the right edge. It’s very hard for me to reach that far comfortably and my muscle memory is all messed up right now. I keep doing the short swipe and I upvote someone’s post instead. If they can add this I will be extremely happy.

Edit: Also, I just realized after posting this comment that Apollo also had a feature where you go forward and backward a screen by swiping left or right on the bottom section. Extremely useful as well.

[–] kkby@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

Pretty impressive! Not Apollo but close. Dismissing images is not as fluid.

[–] Blackbird@infosec.pub 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It is. It doesn’t hide read posts, but that’s the only major thing it’s missing.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There is work done one this to hide post, it just needs reviewed and approved. Might need more for read part.

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[–] stagen@feddit.dk 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My biggest question is, will it eventually be an actual app?

[–] palebluedot@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago

I honestly think that it doesn't matter - this PWA is so polished I'm forgetting that I'm not using a native app.

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

This. People want and need a real app on the official stores to migrate from Reddit. I'm using Connect right now for this reason, but I hope it gets better

[–] StenSaksTapir@feddit.dk 3 points 2 years ago

It's an actual webapp, so no, it probably won't unless they convert the codebase to react native.

I've only found a few things that I'm missing from a native experience and I'm sure it can be fixed.

Most annoyingly is the "scroll-to-top" by double tapping the top of the screen doesn't work.

Otherwise I think in terms of smoothness it's better than Mlem.

[–] Max_UL@lemmy.pro 7 points 2 years ago

+1 wefwef.app my favorite so far

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The one complaint I have is the lack of a native app; it doesn't run as smoothly as the other Lemmy clients do on my phone.

It's already amazing on my tablet though!

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[–] Sp00ky94@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I just installed Mlem and Memmy. Both have a very nice UI and are smooth. I am leaning towards Mlem though. I like swiping right to view my communities.

Edit: I was an Apollo user and reddit does not feel the same without Apollo.

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[–] Dee@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

Wefwef is great! I love the Apollo-export upload feature lets you find similar communities on Lemmy.

[–] Mars@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

New favorite way to use lemmy.

Great design, feels responsive, works everywhere…

PWAs are great, and for 99% of use cases are more than enough. We need a fake App Store that “installs” PWAs in people devices in a transparent way.

Also let’s hope Apple is forced to open iOS to alternative rendering engines and complete full features browsers.

And for a final irony boost, the PWA thing is the “”””original”””” vision for smartphones, at least according to Steve Jobs during the original iPhone keynote. Full circle and stuff.

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[–] Moonwalk@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm an Android user and I never used Apollo, but wefwef is just amazing. It works surprisingly well, especially for a PWA. It will be my app of choice at least until Sync for Lemmy is out.

I'm holding out for Slide for Lemmy as another Android user. But, wefwef is pretty good so far.

[–] bmac92@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

I'm feeling the same way. Can't wait for Sync.

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Wow, can you link it?

Edit: I found it and wow it really is exactly like Apollo!

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[–] joebobdobbs@compuverse.uk 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It’s good, but it needs a compact view (unless I simply haven’t found the option).

Edit: It looks like compact view arrived in the appearance settings. Nice.

Edit 2: It might need since better post error handling/feedback…

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[–] Jdreben@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

I love it. It’s good beehaw doesn’t allow downvoting though because I accidentally would be downvoting a lot as I try and swipe back

[–] bitseek@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

This is uncanny. Thanks!

[–] NotSteve_@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So far my favourite is Memmy but I really like Wefwef too

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[–] hamburglar26@wilbo.tech 4 points 2 years ago

It is certainly pretty close and has made moving over to Lemmy just that much easier for me when using my phone.

I don't really mind the regular interface but just got very used to the Apollo way of things and its nice to have it available.

[–] fades@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yes it is really nice but still browser based at the end of the day, therefore will not be a go-to for me.

Memmy has been good to me so far

[–] andrew@radiation.party 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Whatever you do, don’t look at what technologies Memmy uses.

[–] Liempong_pagong@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm on android, but this got me curious.

What technology does memmy use, and why is it a concern?

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[–] joebobdobbs@compuverse.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s good, but it needs a compact view (unless I simply haven’t found the option).

[–] iamroot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has! Check appearance in settings.

[–] joebobdobbs@compuverse.uk 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I saw it right after posting. The app updates so frequently I must have missed that one.

[–] iamroot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One thing I just noticed is the privacy policy. It proxies the data to their server and can collect analytics. I do understand it's to circumvent CORS, but still we've to keep that in mind.

[–] playmaker@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago

You can host it yourself. It's open source.

[–] myofficialaccount@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

wefwef is the best, I really stopped caring about all the other apps being under development. Just mind that using it with Firefox really is absolutely lagging (which is kind of a shame) and that (currently) Chrome gets you the best performance. Feels like a native Android app.

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[–] CptNoobCanoe@feddit.dk 4 points 2 years ago

I just tied wefwef, and it’s brilliant! It really gives the Apollo feel and even allows for multiple accounts for different instances. Feels like coming home 🙂

[–] aperson@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It seems to work well enough. I could use a little more information density, I wish I could turn off thumbnails, and a bunch of other nit-pick-y things, but it's a good start.

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[–] madjo@geddit.social 4 points 2 years ago

For multilingual people. Please be aware that wefwef will fail upon posting comments, if you have selected more than 1 language in your Lemmy profile. Wefwef comes back with the error message that you need to select a language in your Lemmy profile.

[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It’s as if Apollo has been reborn. How wild! I recommend giving wefwef or Memmy a try.

[–] UdeRecife@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

I'm happily using wefwef both on my phone and on my computer. It has a really a great UI to browse/keep up with lemmy.

[–] zahel@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah it’s my favorite so far as well!

Memmy and Mlem are great native apps

[–] emptyfish@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

As an Apollo user I was very (happily) surprised at how familiar this feels, thank you! Interesting note about this app is they have a Dockerfile available which means you could host the PWA/app in your own domain. Looking at the Dockerfile this would be super easy to deploy and update.

[–] SeedyOne@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It really is great but that name is so weird. Anyone know what it's based on?

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[–] DJDarren@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Oh, this is really nice. It'll be really cool once PWAs are usable on macOS and it'll become my go to way to access Lemmy.

[–] HumbleHobo@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

I'm really digging Wefwef, but I'm an android user so I feel like I'm crossing some weird rubicon of using an Apple UI from a non Apple device.

I guess what I'm saying... Ladies... Is that I'm dangerous.

[–] sourov@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Considering that this is a webapp, it gives far better experience than Jerboa, Thunder. Wefwef It is fast and smooth. Jerboa is fast but laggy. Thunder is laggy but smooth.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

I just found yesterday and installed it as a web app. The two iPhone clients I tried before were not quite ready for prime-time IMO but wefwef is great.

[–] ipipip@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 2 years ago

This is going to be my go to app for mobile devices, thanks for making me aware of it!

[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It can look as nice as it gets. A PWA remains a PWA. Yes, I understand that there are people that like it. I don't. I still hope for an Apollo port to Lemmy. But the development progress of Mlem and Memmy is remarkable as well.

[–] hikaru755@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Genuinely curious, why do you not like PWAs?

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