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[–] chainsawrobot@kbin.social 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

AI generated Reddit
Ad-blocks-you-back Youtube
Login locked pay-to-win Twitter

We are cattle to the elite's ad revenue system.

[–] hardypart@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They really don't like their users, lol

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Why would alpha daddy thought leaders care about low quality organic persons?!

[–] soft_frog@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The second golden age of the internet is officially over.

Unfortunately the golden age was just a mirage, it was actually VC funds killing the ecosystem and offering impossible free services for over a decade.

We'll see if the internet can rebuild, but under the weight of spam and regulation and habit and clout chasing I'm not sure.

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm fine with that.

if it's time to have conversations with actual people face to face, then so be it.

[–] lowdownfool@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The utopian dream of the internet as the great equalizer and "Information wants to be free!" is dead.

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why did the whole internet seemingly decide to kick their enshittification into overdrive in the past month?

[–] Nikelui@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no more venture capital/free money to spend.

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[–] FinalFallacy@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

"Market trends". One greedy dipshit does it and the rest follow suit. Like spez looking up to Elon.

[–] mahomz@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If like me, you only engage with Twitter to the extent of clicking on a link that takes you to a Tweet, reading it and then getting the hell out before the brain dead replies consume what little remains of your soul, then can I recommend Googling up an addon for your preferred browser that redirects Twitter to Nitter as a way around this new barrier to entry.

I am using this one

[–] Mnmalst@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is also https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/ in case you are not aware which supports A LOT of different services besides twitter.

[–] deadcream@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of those servers are dead though (including some nitter instances). You will need to manually disable those that don't work and it's pain in the ass.

[–] RandomStickman@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Don't know why I haven't thought about looking for this add on. Thanks for the link!

[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At least until they break nitter, as they already did with the +18 content.

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[–] muffin@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Nitter unfortunately does not work right now due to this change. Hopefully they will fix this somehow (probably by changing user agent to googlebot, because they still allow web crawlers)

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[–] AmbroisindeMontaigu@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit: Demonstrates that locking away content is bad for the site and the wider internet.

Elon Musk: "I want that for my website!"

[–] hardypart@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They seem to be inspiring each other these days.

"Huffman said he saw Musk’s handling of Twitter, which he purchased last year, as an example for Reddit to follow. "

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-blackout-protest-private-ceo-elon-musk-huffman-rcna89700

[–] AmbroisindeMontaigu@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Inspired by someone whose idea of cost cutting is just not paying others. Any rational person should be avoiding doing business with them.

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[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

I was going to post a tweet here but found out that you can't view it without logging in -- so not worth sharing.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's good, I think only Twitter blue people should be able to read tweets.

[–] lemonflavoured@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

seems like a great idea to me! everyone will rush to mastodon because this one actually costs them money and not just ideals and their soul which they have no use for right this second!

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they can kiss user growth goodbye. It’s interesting to watch, because it’s like someone who has no understanding of the business model is running it. Embedded tweets and viewing tweets on the web is free advertising!

Being not-public is part of the reason why a lot of Twitter alternatives don't have a lot of general mind share I think. They might work well as actual social networks (i.e. people talking to each other), but have no chance of becoming even close to what Twitter was.

[–] okawari@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Noticed that as well, guess twitter will become much less linked to in the future?

[–] hardypart@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure! And what about all those embedded Tweets in news articles?

[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was on a news site yesterday that had an embed that asked if I wanted to see Twitter content or not. And I was like, "Why would I need to see and give views to a Tweet that you're describing in this article? NOPE." And opted out. It was great. I hope more sites do this in the future

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[–] shinjiikarus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously, Elon is speedrunning the destruction of twitter

[–] Proko@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a race to the bottom between Twitter and Reddit.

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

It's the cool big tech move to kill your business right now. Soon we'll be seeing articles on why making site's unusable hellscapes is good for future growth.

[–] BrikoX@vlemmy.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks to be part of Twitter 2.0 plan. They also remomved certain endpoints from their API.

[–] hardypart@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How to wreck a social media platform: The new movie directed by Elon Musk and Steve Huffman.

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[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 30th of June 2023 will forever be known as enshittification day.

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[–] Redhotkurt@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is just going to speed the growth of Twitter alternatives like Mastodon, which is great, but it's sad to see such a once-innovative, widely-used platform degrade to this level of shittiness. All because of a deranged wealthy idiot with an unchecked ego. This was a communication platform, FFS!

Twitter was on a downward spiral long before Daddy Elon took over, though.

[–] peter@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

They've been soft locking content behind a login for a while, I guess they're going for the full thing now. Very annoying

[–] weyland-yutani@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So maybe this is how I'll give up the habit of scrolling through social media on phone. They all just lock themselves in with all the ads goodness, I guess it's good for some of us.

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[–] fear@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

It's not surprising. Other sites have been this way for ages, and they all seem to be in a struggle with one another to out-shit their beds.

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's been drifting that way for a while (couldn't go more than a few clicks without logging in) but it looks like they've made it official. I'm not interested in writing anything behind a login wall.

I would say you could still use nitter.net but that seems kind of broken at the moment, maybe related.

[–] soft_frog@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hopefully this gets public services off twitter.

There's no reason my local fire department or mayor should only be accessible by giving a foreign (to me) company my info and money.

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's a good point!

Also, I used to browse Twitter for years before making an account and probably would never have made one otherwise. Saying things out in public, to the public was kind of the whole point of Twitter.

[–] 50gp@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

yeah this will def cause many public and private services to think about alternatives

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[–] lemonflavoured@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I do wonder how long it will be before the official Twitter app blocks screenshots.

[–] Casmael@geddit.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah just tried to check if a Cramer tweet was real (it wasn’t) and had to log in. Good think iCloud remembered my password because I certainly didn’t. Fuck twitter hopefully I’ll never have to go there again.

[–] FreeBooteR69@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Only serves to grow the Fediverse, so i'm all for it.

[–] gillrmn@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Mastodon has already become viable. I switched when there was court decision that Musk had to buy twitter and deleted my account there. At that time Mastodon was ghosttown - posts related to US were very very few and refreshing the page after a minute gave handful of posts. It changed as it achieved critical mass. By that time I had gotten used to mastodon which is not very user friendly and is different from twitter. Kbin/lemmy are much similar to reddit in that regard.

Now it does the main thing twitter did for me - telling me the news - what is happening around and what others think about that. And it is much better than twitter which was mostly clickbait. It lacks in terms of depth on specific topics, but general topics are there - though you have to know how to curate those.

[–] natarey@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm pessimistic that this will actually change much, or drive users to Mastodon. Just like, as much as I've been loving my time with Kbin/Lemmy, I don't think people are ever going to leave Reddit. Most people appear to have a way, WAY higher bullshit tolerance than I do. It's sad. The old guard are unusable, and the new options are withering on the vine.

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