What, your kid doesn't speak ancient Egyptian?
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As first language, nonetheless!
Enlightened linguists teach their children languages in chronological order, starting with sumerian and by the age of 7 finally reaching proto-indo-european and finally starting to be able to somewhat communicate with the rest of the world.
even better when you know that we don't even know how it sounded. Ancient Egyptians didn't bother to write down vowels, all we have today is educated guesses as to how some words could've been pronounced
What, your kid isn't Yugi Muto and has got an ancient pharaoh inside of him?
Must be in the TV series where everyone speaks English for some reason.
The one time Esperanto isn't the most wacky language on the list
Esperanto is a sane and sensible language
If everyone else is mad, is it sane to be rational?
Go ahead and laugh, but just wait until the class gets to Beowulf.
Whan that Aprille with his shoures soote, The droghte of March hath perced to the roote, And bathed every veyne in swich licóur Of which vertú engendred is the flour;
Is that Beowulf era English?
It's the opening of the Canterbury Tales.
no that would be something roughly like
hwonne þæs esode eac swéoran hrūmas
(I used an online translator for the first line so probably horribly bastardized)
I think it's Chaucer era.
Whats this mean?
When in April, with its sweet showers, The drought of March had pierced to the root, And bathed every root in such liquor Of which virtue engendered is the flower.
Basically, it's setting the scene for the coming story (it's the introduction to The Canterbury Tales), and talking about in April spring starts to see rain dispelling the drought of March and filling the roots with sweet water.
It goes on to talk about the winds and the birds, where the sun is in the sky (directly overhead), and then to pilgrims starting their pilgrimages, as a sort of "And this is where we begin our story" thing.
I would like to clarify that Chaucer is Late Middle English, and English standards were in large part based on his writing, so his writing is generally understandable for most English readers. Early & Middle Middle English, though, not so much...
Wow, it goes from something that looks almost German to nearly readable modern English. That was crazy to see. Thanks for the information.
I only speak German as a second language, so I can't verify this, but I see a lot of native German+English speakers say that some of Old English and earlier Middle English texts are actually quite readable for them. I imagine something similar would apply to people literate in Icelandic, but I haven't seen that yet.
I'm a swedish native with decent german fluidity, the 12th century stuff reads like a hybrid between old norse and german, and by 15th century it just sounds like modern swenglish (look it up, it's fucking hilarious)
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Just middle English things.
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I'm a programmer, and this reminds me of one time when I got a support call about a bug in our app: a "State" picklist with 509 entries (for you non-United Statesians, this is a bit more than the 50 or so states - we sometimes include shit like DC, Puerto Rico and Guam in these lists - I should have been seeing), including about 20 different versions of "Louisiana" (like Lousiana, Louisiania etc.) and lots of different countries (occasionally spelled correctly). What had happened was that we originally had a table in the database for listing all the states, and one of our coders got the assignment to add a marriage license module to the app, mirroring the state's paper form that was used for this. Since the "State" line had to accommodate people from other countries, the clerks just used this line to enter whatever country they were from and insisted on the same functionality in the app. Since our database was fully relational, this coder just used the existing "States" table but added new entries in code whenever a user typed out a non-standard thing in the box. Completely hosing every place in the app that used a States picklist.
The real mystery was how this table grew to 509 entries before anyone noticed a problem.
I came across a country list to choose your international telephone prefix. No option to type the number, gotta use the drop down list. It also included many '+1's for American states.
There was a Chinese version of the web page, and all the country codes (UK, CA, etc) were translated as if whatever abbreviation you might guess. Highlights, IIRC, included BP -> (Chinese translation for) British Petroleum; IN -> (Chinese for) the word 'in'; and SS -> (Chinese for) the Schutzstaffel.
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*olde
*ye olde
* þe olde
Always mad that typesetters got lazy, and we dropped Thorn from our alphabet. Everyone is all "ye olde English" snark snark...that's cause they dropped thorn and used y instead....it's still a Th sound...god...why can't you people be nerds?!
They weren't lazy, they were French, IIRC
Yup, England had a Frenchaboo period after 1066 that lasted quite a while
why did you just repeat the same thing twice?
it annoys me so much how people say "yee oldee", it's literally just supposed to be pronounced like normal, but with stress on "the", like "thee"
dat thorn tho
*þat þorne þough...
*ðat þorne ðough...
i don't know why "þorn" always gets so much more love on ðe internet ðan "eð". ðey're boþ cool letters.
Þæt and þēah... unvoiced. Spelled with þorne, not eð.
Hot.
"He failed every assignment except when it came to Beowulf for some reason."
I saw this same list of languages at a walk-in clinic.
Same, they have to be drawing it from some list put together by an absolute weirdo
It's the unabridged ISO 639 list.
I am maintaining the list of langages for a discussion and simultanous interpretation system. The two oddballs in that list are Latin and Klingon. And yes, both langages have been used in the past.
Yo necesito un ye olde translacion PRONTO GOD DAMNIT
Maybe they're on the lookout for the Goa'uld. Never can be too sure.
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