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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 240 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I’d pay for YouTube premium if t wasn’t more expensive than HBO. It’s ridiculous. Especially considering YouTube has no production costs. It’s all user-generated content.

[–] BettyWhiteInHD@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Especially considering YouTube has no production costs. It’s all user-generated content.

YT may not have "production costs", but they certainly not only have huge costs for hosting video, but they also have to pay for staff to develop and support their software, support content creators and sell ads that make their whole business model make sense. YouTube just isn't a company that has little to no expenses and larger content creators will tell you just as much. And again, video hosting is fucking expensive at any scale and their scale is actually insane.

I'm not defending YT Premium, I just unsubbed after they increased the price because it's not really worth it to me at the moment, but the fact that it's not as expensive as HBO, which by the way will undoubtedly will increase in price like everything has in part because endless VC money is drying up, is not the only factor determining how much a service costs to a consumer. I think we might have to start looking at these things a little more objectively and start weighing how much these services actually cost to run now that maybe businesses can't just operate in the red forever while shiny teethed confident people convince others that they can and then you.

For a lot of people that will probably come with a realization that you're not actually willing to pay for some of these things at all.

[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 28 points 1 year ago (12 children)

the users do get paid though, although i'm sure it's a fraction of what youtube makes.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Hmmm. $20 a month for the big budget action of Westworld, or $20 a month for a cooking show filmed in someone’s basement. Decisions, decisions.

[–] Wolf_359@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

To be fair, YouTube has far more variety and far more content overall. Personally, I have seen pretty much anything worth watching on the major streaming services. My wife and I can just ignore any top 200 list of shows or movies because we have already seen it all and anything we haven't seen doesn't look interesting to us. We just have to wait for new shows to come out.

YouTube though. It's functionally unlimited considering the length of a human lifespan.

For some insight, a quick Google search says that Netflix has about 4 years of content if you sat down and watched everything they have to offer. Meanwhile, YouTube has about 18,000 years of content.

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 190 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube

  • ad blockers are not "on youtube", they are on my devices

  • allowed by whom?

  • fuck you

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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)
[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sponsorblock and Return YT Dislikes FTW as well.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On desktop blocktube has improved things so much too. It has made search results so much better, since YouTube suppresses smaller channels in favor of the same large youtubers depending on the subject. Really wish it could be integrated into mobile YouTube options, but until then my hope is waiting until mobile firefox getting desktop extension support.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 125 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Dear Youtube: Bring back the downvote count, allow me to disable shorts, allow me to disable your bullshit annoying ass startup music, then half the price and then we'll talk about paying for your "service".

[–] viking@infosec.pub 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Youtube has startup music???

[–] zerbey@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, on Smart TV devices there's a startup tune.

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[–] anywho@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I am paying for YouTube Premium, and yet I still have to skip over US-exclusive sponsor sections which almost every Youtuber has nowadays…

[–] ironic_elk@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's why I still use Vanced. Sponsorblock is something I can't live without even though I have YouTube premium.

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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, almost exclusively either Us-centric and not even available where I live, or so gosh darn expensive that I just will never use the stuff advertised (looking at you, magic spoon)

[–] BettyWhiteInHD@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Pro tip: I'm in the US and typically stay away from companies that advertise on a bunch of YouTube channels and podcasts. It usually means that they put more dollars towards advertising than the quality of their products and you've likely heard of them through advertising than a good word of mouth.

MeUndies is shit but expensive underwear, Casper mattresses are going to fuck your back in a few years, Dollar Shave Club is grossly overpriced for what it is, a lot of actual experienced therapists stay away from Better Help and it's a borderline scam, Liquid Death is just tap water in a can, RayCons are just mediocre headphones sold at a premium, etc.

If they have money to throw towards every other YouTuber and podcaster, then they're probably only prioritizing growth over maintaining and improving their quality and operations. That's just how it is.

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[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you’re not already using it, this is gold: https://sponsor.ajay.app/

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[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 110 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why's everything going to shit? The world is already shitty enough, lemme enjoy some escapism ffs.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Eshitification is a result of end stage capitalism. People are trying to extract their last bit of value before society goes tits up due to climate change.

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[–] MrMamiya@feddit.de 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Ah YouTube, the site where I watch a video that tells me in ten minutes what I could read in one. And only 5 advertisements!

Oops, six. I forgot the ad the creator slipped in between minute 1 and 2.

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[–] 6mementomori@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (79 children)

and this is why you should use third party clients/patches like revanced

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[–] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago

There is something fundamentally wrong with a service that shows more ads than content.

[–] jenniebuckley@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

fuck YouTube premium. why would I pay £19.99 a month when literally the only defining feature for me is no ads. all this will do is allow for more complex ad blockers to be made to bypass this

[–] Z4rK@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (12 children)

The creators also get a good chunk of the money from premium as far as I’ve been able to verify (by asking some I follow directly).

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[–] dmrzl@programming.dev 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"While the duration of this timer isn't revealed, we expect it to be somewhere around 30 to 60 seconds."

Peak journalism.

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[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 67 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Up next: An AI-enabled Web Browser extension which

  • mutes the YouTube ads and overlays it with cute cat videos
  • clicks the "skip" button for you
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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just got my first 30 second UNSKIPPABLE ad on my TV the other day...I closed youtube, as watching a 1min video is NOT worth 30 seconds of ads

[–] clay830ee@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago (17 children)

The really annoying part is YouTube gets all their content for free, while every other subscription video service pays for content.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago

They do, but the costs to store all of that high resolution video is enormous. Especially since it must be replicated to local repository for quicker access as popularity raises and removed when popularity falls on videos. The amount of content stored and served is significantly more than Netflix houses. That being said, ads are getting way too intrusive.

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[–] shashi154263@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The worst part of YouTube ads is super long ads (sometimes even multiple hours long). It has happened to me multiple times. And coincidentally it always happens when I'm feeling sleepy.

Here is a screenshot.

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[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, all these companies just pushing me away from using their services. I don't need it.

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[–] moitoi@feddit.de 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is one of these problem with multiple unsolvable issues:

  • people are used to ad block and won't change
  • the price is too high for part of the population (-> ad block for part of them)
  • $1/month, $10/year would attract new paid account but not that much
  • people can't afford/don't want a subscription everything
  • users don't see any value in it
  • a fraction of the paid will go ad block with the price increase
  • people will circumvent the ad block block
  • capitalism
  • ...
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[–] dolle@feddit.dk 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I actually don't have a problem paying for online services. I host my own email, I pay for Kagi search and I do monthly donations to Mozilla and Wikipedia. What I have an issue with is services that start out as advertisement based and then introduce paid plans, because now you still have all these shitty mechanics just for driving up engagement which results in unhealthy incentives for content creators and rabbit holes. I want a service that is for YouTube what Kagi is to Google Search. But perhaps that model is too difficult to monetize, I don't know.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Next they will detect if you mute the tab and go to another one to wait the ad out.

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[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

NewPipe, and YouTube Revanced are great apps you can use on mobile. They aren't attached to any Google account so you can just use them and skip adds all day without getting any account theoretically banned.

For those who continue to use YouTube and adblockers on PC, simply just make a new throwaway Google account. In the case that they aren't actually bluffing (they are) then at least your temp account will be banned.

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[–] Graphine@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dear YouTube,

Go fuck yourselves.

Sincerely, the 1% of people who actually use adblockers happily.

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