this post was submitted on 06 Apr 2024
204 points (97.2% liked)

PC Gaming

8781 readers
420 users here now

For PC gaming news and discussion. PCGamingWiki

Rules:

  1. Be Respectful.
  2. No Spam or Porn.
  3. No Advertising.
  4. No Memes.
  5. No Tech Support.
  6. No questions about buying/building computers.
  7. No game suggestions, friend requests, surveys, or begging.
  8. No Let's Plays, streams, highlight reels/montages, random videos or shorts.
  9. No off-topic posts/comments, within reason.
  10. Use the original source, no clickbait titles, no duplicates. (Submissions should be from the original source if possible, unless from paywalled or non-english sources. If the title is clickbait or lacks context you may lightly edit the title.)

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 46 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 60 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Man, I remember when someone on reddit got mad upvotes for saying "5tb hard drives don't exist" in response to me, as the external 5tb hdd I was using sat 2ft away from me.

And here we are looking at the [BRAND] advertisement for 120TB drives.

[–] dumbass@lemy.lol 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Come on man, 120gb HDDs don't exist!

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, they don’t exist. (yet)

[–] dandroid@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Do you mean "anymore"?

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I remember when I got my forst 120gb drive. I happily installed it on my win 2k and... bios didn't like it, OS didn't like it and read its capacity wrong. I forget if I used windows or linux but after I cut the drive into 2x60gb it worked great

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I was already sick of this shit the first time I saw a 1GB harddisk, a Quantum Bigfoot using a 5.25" form factor. Massive thing. Could fit a whole day of a comprehensive USENET feed.

[–] exscape@kbin.social 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I'm pretty sure they were referring to how the more common sizes are 1, 2, 4, 8, 10, 12 TB and so on. 6 is semi-common. 5 is relatively rare, so they probably didn't realize they exist.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

And any 8TB disk with bad blocks makes a fine 5TB disk.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I own a couple of 5TB drives. At the time when 8TB and above were rare and expensive, it wasn't that strange.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Still rocking an Xbox one with a 4tb external drive. It's got to be going on 10 years old at this point

[–] guycls@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Finally, all of my homework on one drive.

I finally won't have to check hard drive space when saving a Word document.

[–] pezhore@lemmy.ml 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I remember reading an interesting take on the 20TB drives when they came out - the impact of drive failure skyrockets with large density drives.

Back with 2TB drives, you could fit 60-70 Blu-ray rips. If that drive dies (without backups/RAID), you'll be hurting but not as bad as if you have a filled 20TB with 600-700 rips. Plus, even with RAID, the rebuild time increases with density, and for 20TB drives you could be waiting a week for rebuild.

I like the idea of higher density drives, but in my opinion they only really make sense in large drive arrays where you can spread the data over dozens and dozens of replicated drives.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

but in my opinion they only really make sense in large drive arrays where you can spread the data over dozens and dozens of replicated drives.

Luckily the ones that are considering buying this have that or something similar and/or extensive backups.

[–] pezhore@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Oh definitely. I'm sure backblaze and the like will pick these right up.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

I do miss being able to back up my 8 GB drive onto five bucks' worth of CD-Rs.

I do not miss having only 8 GB to work with.

[–] throwafoxtrot@lemmynsfw.com 25 points 8 months ago

The info graphic suggests that they use the different cooling rate of the first and second layer to lock in the applied magnetic field of heat assisted magnetic recording.

They beat both layers

They apply a magnetic field to save a "1" bit

Both layers are magnetized to a "1" bit

The first layer cools down and locks that bit into place permanently.

They apply the magnetic field to save a "0" bit

While the second layer is still hot and accepts the "0" orientation of the magnetic field, the first layer is already too cold and will not change its magnetization.

The second layer cools down and locks that bit into place.

Neat!

[–] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seagate is always finding new ways to brick your data!

[–] MyNamesNotRobert@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fuck yes now I can lose 120tb of data and they'll still refuse to replace the drive despite it being under warranty because apparently 1399235195 bad reads + the drive being unusable isn't considered broken enough to get a replacement.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Resilvering a drive failure gonna take ages

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Backups will be fun too.

[–] charleroi2@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] Cort@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

If you have to ask . . .

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

~~Uhhhhhhhhhhh 3k minimum probably~~

Edit: this is HARD DRIVE not SSD, so im estimating $500 instead

Edit 2: im bad at this

[–] astrsk@piefed.social 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

$500 for 120TB!?

I spent about $1200 for 100tb of spinning rust for one of my NAS boxes. Please tell me where I can get 20% more for 40% less!

For clarity, at the $240 per 20tb CMR drive, assuming no inflated cost due to novel production processes, it would be around $1440 for one drive. I’m going to assume ~$1600 minimum. Also, I’m not going to buy one until they can prove it doesn’t have the same issues as shingled drives.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lol i remember spending $300 on 200gb hdds. And i got a discount since some buddies and i pooled to get a batch together

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was an exciting time when we finally passed the $1/GB mark.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Those were the days my friend.....

I'll tell you what though, i still have that 200gb WD. It still works. Chucked it under disk tools and ran some deep diags for shits and giggles, no errors found. 24 years old (ditto with an ancient 20gb toshiba that runs the head for a nas). Ya just can't kill them. I have quantum fireballs in a DOS box that are still trucking

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

$500 would be an insane price. 16TB drives alone are like $300-500 CAD

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago

I think the existing 100TB SSDs are over $10k. Halo products charge a premium.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

I just want giant SSD's for not an insane price. But don't see it happening anytime soon.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

They're not even making them yet.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

... from a homelab pov I should start comparing dB/TB ...

[–] PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago

That brings lemmy hosting its own videos much closer!

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago

Oh oh... I feel the sudden urge to start hoarding stuff and hosting an IPFS node 😅

Anti Commercial AI thingyCC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[–] lightrush@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Multilayer recording sounds like it would require read-rewrite similar to how SMR works. Still perhaps we'd be okay with that for the dramatic capacity increase.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 8 months ago

New technology to increase hard drive storage? "Get perpendicular!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_PyKuI7II

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago