We have found old comrades and new ones.
Yes the libs outnumber those we find, and yes it is an endless battle. But it's worth it.
this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2023
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I'm curious enough to make an account here and actually ask questions since some of the stuff you people have said when calm did make sense to me. But for most people the mean and condescending replies making fun of posts counter-arguing are really offputting, I get that it's fun but I think if you federated as an attempt to reach out to others and convince them it wasn't the best idea honestly
People that are open minded get good responses. People that are not get shit responses.
There is literally no point in attempting to reason with people that do not want to be reasoned with. Libs worship civility, even when it's with fascists.
People that are open minded get good responses.
Eh. A good portion of hexbears are terminally dunk-brained. We've been getting obvious satire posts in the dunk tank for ages because people are so eager to dunk on anything they see.
I saw a lot of civil people that got "dunked on", both in here and by hexbear users in other instances
I think there is a point to arguing with unreasonable people in the internet, because other people are watching, and if you are the one remaining calm when another person is being unreasonably mean or denigrating it gives a convincing aura and vibe. Of course it's not really pleasant to do though I do understand that
Being civil isn't the issue. Participating with intent to actually listen and learn is.
This is exactly the point I am making. You think we should respond nicely to people who are NOT participating in good faith, just because they're being """"civil"""". I'm not wasting my fucking time with people who clearly aren't open to hearing what I have to say. There are people who ARE open to hearing what I have to say and they get a genuine response, with sources, and a conversation, and things are learned.
Libs can't tell the difference between each other and the literal actual fascists around them and it's infuriating. Which comes from incredible levels of political illiteracy and deferring all of their opinions and political education to media owned by billionaires.
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I don't personally want to dunk, but it is entertaining watching the dunk. And there's always more for me to learn from my comrades because I am a 
student always
Idk, I'm just not built for dunking ig o7 to all of you who've gone through the effort to write big explanations of stuff for passing liberals to see though
Yeah, honestly this is anxiety-inducing for me. I am simply not built for twitter-like endless arguing/dunking. It did bring out a bit of effortposting out of me, but at what cost? Especially since I have to watch out for what I say in case I say something horrifically wrong (because there's libs watching) or when there's a reply notification it could be some 🌐 bozo ready to fight.
I don't think you have to worry about saying something wrong: libs will find ways to shit on the most well rounded and honed arguments. Like yeah it feels bad when you're wrong but at the end of the day it's not a huge deal if you lose an argument. I definetly get the latter fear, it isn't something I've had to deal with since I haven't been fighting the libs this past week 😔
Trust that if some bozo is trying to start a fight, your comrades will be there to dunk on them.
I've seen 3 libs so far stop and question their assumptions and the systems around them, and then disengage from their debate-broing
have patience!
We'll convert the ones who are able to be saved and the lost causes will segregate themselves by banning and blocking and defeding us while shitting and crying and turning into a corn cob
I managed to persuade one to read on authority by just being nice to them so I count that as a personal dub for me
Being nice works sometimes, its important to know when to go hard and when to be gentle
From my observation, both at the same time gets the best results. I hesitate to call it good cop/bad cop but maybe that's what it is 
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I had a feeling this would really mess with the community which had developed here and it did, the thing I used this site for was to be able to hear from people outside the lib/fash echo chambers everywhere else online and now the coziness of that is gone and replaced with a bro troll energy. I don't care who you dunked on or how hard you did it, spreading the word of your great victory over some internet moron just means I get stuck hearing another stupid opinion even if you epically tear it apart, and if I wanted to just read stupid opinions I can do that on 
or twitter
Exactly. I'm tired of forum drama. I don't give a shit what random liberals on the internet say. Imagine if I posted every single fucking tweet from random Elon reply guys.
Are they all dumb and easy to dunk on? Yeah. Does that mean everyone else needs to see them? Absolutely not. Please let us talk about systemic issues and global politics again instead of "oooh another lemmy user posted cringe" as if anyone cared.
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I just wanted an environment away from the redditification that the rest of the internet has become. Sticking to local instances is kinda helping until one of those fucking goobers comes in with their welll akshully bullshit
the good part of that is that when they come into our territory we can just shell them with impunity
Yeah that's hillarious and all, but i can see how people still get tired of all the shitlib dinguses waltzing into our space being redditor debatelords. That they shrivel and turn into a corncob and drop gems like "i've got like 200 messages from insane tankies in my inbox" is amusing, but doesn't change the fact that we've lost having a niche to ourselves where we could completely avoid that particular way of starting self-aggrandizing internet fights.
I think we will have local-only comms before too long which will help things out
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I think the decentralized -verse will inevitably split into the lemmy.ml bloc and the lemmy.world bloc, and most of the redditification will happen at .world if it hasn't already. It's just what makes the most sense - unlike with Reddit proper the mods of lemmy instances don't have to share space with other large instances that they don't like.
Did the Star Trek instance defed or something? I remember seeing their posts at first but haven’t seen them recently.
I’m also still wishing there were more hobbyist instances/communities to interact with, since this has always been a little lacking.
Looks like there are a bunch in the instances list. How it works, from my understanding, is that someone has to search for a comm and/or subscribe before the content actually syncs. I ended up subbing to all the hexbear comms so they show up on Mander but I’m the only one subbed to most of them.
Unfortunately, someone in the home instance has to find and interact first.
There’s also a bot that some instances run which automatically subs to all linked comms so they are searchable from within a home instance but not many run it.
:0 Could you link to the got repo for this bot? I wouldn't mind running for Hexbear
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I think the novelty of dunking on those losers will wear out around the same time they begin defedding from us. The lib instances are already complaining about us, and barring a firm stance from their admins which will also lead to its own drama, they'll will eventually defed from us. I don't see the current vibe lasting for very long.
locals only! but hopefully this experiment brings in some new people who decide to stay here
I know I shouldn't think of Hexbear as /r/chapotraphouse 2 but we did bring the best-in-class shitposting along with us. Now we also have retrieved the ability to evangelize
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Please don't stop we need you
Eh I wasnt dunking that much anyway, the rest of hexbear was already doing a good enough job
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What, are you folks planning on turning off your federation or something? Because if so, please tell your supreme leader that I'd hate to see you go.
Nah we're not turning it off, for better or worse. I'm just bored of making fun of anti communists and centrists now so I'm gonna stick to just posting locally and maybe in a few of the outside communities like on blahaj.zone because that seems to be one of the only actually interesting instances I've seen
I don't think so but a but the userbase seemed pretty split on wanting it. Ive enjoyed it so far though :)
I mainly don't want hexbear have a reputation of being annoying and pestilential, instead of funny, welcoming, unwelcoming to bigots, and very far left.
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Honest question, do y'all not like hobby communities? I can understand if this venue is purely an outlet for sociopolitical discussion for y'all. But there are a lot of smaller communities now at your fingertips, for quirky hobbies and topical discussion. Ones that'd totally welcome you if you want to take a break from dunking and just want to talk about music, or VHS, or rabbits, or JavaScript.
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The larger lib instances are going to defed us sooner or later, but if you don't want to wait I wouldn't blame you for setting your default sort to "local" and only seeing the occasional lib visitor wandering in.
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Best thing to do is not comment on a thread about how that thread is still on active or has a lot of comments, because that'll keep it on active
Star Trek website is good
Its annoying that every thread turns into muh china/russia debate. The libs will never understand it.
isnt 196 holed up on blahaj? makes it insufferable and hostile to trans people
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