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I like to say that there are two Apples, Apple the designer and Apple the business.

Apple the designer is one of the best in the world. Yes they have blunders but they consistently put out some of the highest quality hardware and software. The current design language of the iPhone is beautiful, MacOS has its issues but it's a good OS, the seamlesness with which Apple devices work together is nothing short of incredible. They have some of the best engineers and designers in the world and it shows. (I'll never forgive them for the mouse though, that thing is a travesty)

Apple the business is a ghoul who hates its users and competition, would rather you buy a new phone than repair your broken one and, if they could, would make your device implode if you do anything they don't approve of. I'm still waiting for them to be benevolent enough to allow me to code on an M1 iPad, a device that has all the power of a mac but is completely knee capped by its OS.

I love Apple the designer, but unfortunately Apple the business makes it impossible for me to support them.

Apple absolutely can do some great things, but I cannot overlook their anti-consumer practices towards the right to repair. The fact that aftermarket parts have to reuse a chip for the sole reason of marking the serial number the same as the original is ridiculous and should be illegal.

Also Apple devices are only more "private" in the sense that the prevent third parties from collecting your data (don't get me wrong, this is great), but then proceed to go and collect the same data for their own uses instead.

Another baffling thing I found is that you can't transfer files from the device if iCloud is enabled? That's fucking crazy to me. I get that it's not a common thing to do but I had multiple customers ask how they'd get something off, and the answer was to slowly download it from the cloud, if it was something that happened to be backed up.

No bloatware or adverts on the iPhone

Cherry-picked. There are phones without ads or bloat. And, given the incompatibility between facetime/iMessage and apps standardized across all other platforms, I consider these to be bloat.

User friendly design. Nice user experience.

Subjective. I support a number of family members whose grandkids suggested iPhones. Whether it's swooshing, skootching, swiping, tapping or banging it against a guardrail, I haven't learned and they can't remember how to bring up the main app screen now that the functional button was removed -- like, none of them. I'm just here to fix their email passwords, and I leave the UX issues to said grandkids.

I use Iphone and Ipad just for the banking. I distrust Android. It is an open system, and used a lot more for data collection than Apple's ecosystem is. The return you get from a data request between apple and an Android system is vast. I refuse to use Facebook and the likes.

I never buy the latest edition of Iphone anymore. I have done in the past, but the idea of spending £1200 on a phone seems stupid to me. I have very few apps on both the Iphone and Ipad. I use a PC for other stuff. Iphone hardware is good with the CPU side of things, but the cameras are very inferior compared to some android phones.

I use a windows PC to move my own music to my iphone, but it is a hampered system. I really do not understand why they have not been brought to the spotlight of the monopolies commission because of how bad they hinder transfers. I have a process I have to follow to get new music on my iphone. Anyone who wants movies on their apple products should look at VLC. It is the easiest method. I should add I haven't added new music for a long time. This could have changed, but I would be sceptical until I saw it for myself.

I look down on anyone buying a Macbook. They are total dogcrap, and massively overpriced. They are designed to fail in many areas, the latest being the SSDs that are causing surges in the motherboard, which destroys it. Apple constructively inhibits any repairs behind software encoding and pressure it puts on 3rd party suppliers. They lobby US government to restrict self repairs. You are literally throwing money into Apple's bank account for very little return.

The whole apple ethos is to entirely control your product because you're too stupid too. You can try to see the nuance in that if you want I suppose, but I'm not really seeing anything meaningful myself.

But Apple wouldn't be able to get away with it when their customers wouldn't gobble up their bad decisions.

They guard your data? Quote from Apples Privacy Policy about the Apple-ID:

［...］we process the following categories of personal data as necessary for purposes of our legitimate interests or those of a third party, including information about:

　Your Apple ID account, including information you use to sign in, as well as all the contact, payment, and security details, such as trusted phone numbers or security questions, that you use across Apple services Your devices, including your device’s name, serial number, and other hardware identifiers Your use of, and subscriptions to, various Apple services, such as iCloud, iTunes Store, App Store, Apple Music, and Apple One Payment details, including account numbers and expiration dates, billing and shipping addresses, and gift card redemption information These legitimate interests include:

• Providing you and others with better service and support
• Using your data to send you offers via email and push notifications that may be of interest to you

The fight is actually about the non-repairability of apple products, mostly laptops in Louis Rossmans's case, and not related to android.

Simping is not the same as lacking a reasonable alternative

These seem like cherry picked examples to an extent.

Most Asus laptops charge with basic USB C which can easily be purchased anywhere. They also use M.2 SSD’s instead of soldered one’s and standard screws vs Apple’s special shaped ones.

Apple’s only headphones + replacement pads are going to over 2x the price of even high-end Sony headphones. Plus Apple exclusively puts the Lightning jack on them instead of USB C or a 3.5mm jack

None of the Samsung phones I’ve ever used have had ads on the Lock Screen or any bloat that wasn’t easy to completely ignore. The ones that do are typically cheaper than the cheapest iPhone and an unfair comparison

The walled golden garden is great isn't it?

I am forced to use a MacBook at work and I fricking hate it. The software follows such strange HIGs. Just look at the finder. Why is the default action on a folder/file to RENAME it? If I press enter on a folder I want to enter it, if I press enter on a file I want to open it.

Why does apples keyboard layout with DEde Locale is so utterly strange compared to IBM keyboard layouts?

Why do they not print atleast the second modifier row on the keys?

To use Macintosh's you really need to think differently.

But yeah the interconnection inside it's eco system is pretty neat.

Also, why whine about drivers for something from 2004? You, certainly as a apple user, don't have anything that old anyway. And the option to be able to use stuff from that age by installing a driver is super useful.

Seems more like an apple user with superioty complex who never used other os to me

I agree but the fediverse is built on open source evangelists you aren’t going to get a lot of agreement. I use an iPhone an Apple Watch and AirPods and have a work issued Mac I like them all just fine

Apart from office pre installed, Linux has all these benefits for free. And even then, many distros have FOSS alternatives pre installed. Not great if you NEED MSOffice for work, but many suites, like OnlyOffice, are fully compatible with MSO formats.

Your point is solid, but that level of polish on Apple products is only skin deep. For example, there are several missing features and issues with MacOS that have gone unaddressed for years.

• Window edge snapping is incredibly frustrating. Linux desktops and Microsoft Windows have had proper window snapping support for decades.

• The app uninstall process is inconsistent, with some apps remaining contained in the .app folder while others spill out all over the system.

• The recovery mode process for resetting an Intel-based Mac is incredibly tedious and time consuming.

However, MacOS isn’t the only Apple product with issues.

• WatchOS has an inconsistent and difficult to navigate UI. The bubble menu is inconsistent and difficult to navigate, and the list view requires that you sort by alphabetical when a “recently used” sort would be significantly more efficient.

• IOS doesn’t allow sideloading apps.

• TVOS is filled with ads for Apple’s premium services like AppleTV+

• IOS home screen icons cannot have blank space and must instead tile to the top of the screen.

• Methods for going back to what was previously onscreen are inconsistent in IOS.

• IOS browsers are required to use mobile Safari’s web engine.

However, this isn’t to say that Apple products are bad, simply to remind you that they do have flaws. Based on your wording of “bootleg os’s” I can’t quite tell what your referring to. Windows is the only OS I’m aware of other than MacOS that has heavy advertising, but your phrasing seems to place it in a different category altogether. Although if you are looking for a new OS to try I highly recommend looking into the many Linux distributions available. I recommend Linux Mint to beginners, since it is generally the simplest to use.

Android has encryption by default, good sandboxing, ability to install a more secure OS (if OEM doesn't suck), etc.

The only thing iOS has going for it is that it treats the users like babies and doesn't allow sideloading