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To be clear, this is just a joke, and I don't look down on direct downloading. It absolutely has its place, and sometimes I do it myself if it's just faster to download a file directly. Torrenting is just so much more convenient, though, especially when using Jackett's manual search.

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[–] RighteousFog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And Prowlarr is even better if you're also using Radarr/Sonarr/Lidar.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've considered switching to this program, but from what I've heard, its manual search isn't as good as Jackett's, and I only use Jackett for manual searching. Apparently Prowlarr is more suited for use with the .arr suite, which is why its manual search isn't as good, and it doesn't have as many available indexers. I heard all this a while ago, though. Is this all still the case?

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They're mostly functionally equivalent, but prowlarr supports usenet indexers in addition as well as having a better interface.

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[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Today I learned that some torrent clients provide a built-in torrent search engine.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

See, I was hoping this meme would inform at least one person that Qbittorrent comes with an in-built search engine. That's how I found out about it in the first place, through a meme lol

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[–] razieltakato@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Today I learned that people actually use this. I always thought it didn't work right.

[–] thedrivingcrooner@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Limewire was like that. It was heavily abused and unsafe to find shit with but it was like living in the future.

[–] MeatballFlag@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe because I didn't know what I was doing back then but that was the only way I used Limewire

[–] thedrivingcrooner@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah it was both a torrent manager and search engine. What we didn't know was what came from where.

[–] chrizbie@lemmy.nz 43 points 1 year ago

I've learned a lot here on Lemmy

[–] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is Jackett's manual search? Never heard of it.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Jackett is a program that allows you to configure multiple indexers (torrent sites, like 1337x, EZTV, RuTor, Nyaa.si, etc.) in a single interface, that way you can search through all of them at the same time. Jackett, and another program just like it called Prowlarr, is usually used in conjunction with the .arr suite of programs (Radarr, Sonarr, etc.), but it includes a manual search function that allows you to query all the indexers you have set up in the interface at the same time. That's exclusively what I use it for.

So, for example, I have 22 indexers set up in my installation of Jackett. I can use the manual search function to search through all of them at once, then I can sort the results by seeder count, publish date, and file size, and I can filter through the results to find exactly what I'm looking for. Once I've found the file I want, I can copy the magnet link directly from the search results and paste it into Qbittorrent. It's an extremely easy way to find files quickly, and it's much more efficient than manually going to a bunch of different torrent sites to search for a file that might not even be available there. With Jackett, I've literally never once had a case where I wasn't able to find what I was looking for. That's how good it is.

[–] yossarian@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can take this a step further and use Qbittorrents built in search function to query your jackett indexers. No reason to leave the Qbit webui

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I actually have done that, but Qbit's built-in search doesn't have the same search filtering options. For instance, I can't sort torrents by upload date on the Qbit web-ui (this is the most important missing feature, imo), or set it to only search certain indexers and not others, and it has no category related options. It has the essentials, but the Jackett interface is just cleaner and more feature rich in my opinion. That's why I stopped using the Qbit search engine in favor of Jackett.

[–] lemming007@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Don't you need to find 22 indexers to make that happen? Are these all public trackers because I don't think there are even that many left. Or are you using private trackers? I tried using Jacket but it's no good without having indexers, I thought it comes preinstalled with indexers

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Jackett comes preloaded with 574 indexers, and none of the ones I use are private. All of mine are public indexers, you just have to know the names of some popular torrent sites. I discovered half the indexers I use from people on r/Piracy (before the migration) talking about how much they like how they work. That's how I found Idope, Knaben, and Torlock. Others, like 1337x, Nyaa.si, LimeTorrents, and EZTV are all indexers I was familiar with as I had used them personally and recognized them when I clicked into the "add indexers" drop-down on the interface. Barring all that, you could just ask someone else to send you a screenshot of all the indexers they use on their Jackett setup. Here's a list of the ones I use. Adding indexers to Jackett is basically the easiest part, and you only have to do it once.

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[–] Madbrad200@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does come preinstalled with them, that's the whole point of Jackett. You just need to enable them in the dashboard.

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[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jackett is pretty good, but you should really check out the *arr suite of apps. And when you do, you'll find Prowlarr is quite a bit better than Jackett for finding just the stuff you want.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As I mentioned in a different comment here, I'm already familiar with the arr suite. It's how I found Jackett in the first place, and I've already determined that setting up the .arr programs isn't worth it for me. Stremio suits me just fine, the .arr programs appear to be better suited toward those with the time and money to setup a whole dedicated server for their media needs. I only consume media on my personal computer, so I have no need for that.

I have tried Prowlarr though, just yesterday in fact. I didn't really find its manual search feature to be any better than Jackett's, and in fact it had some issues. In any case, since I don't use the .arr programs, I've no reason to switch. Thanks for the suggestion though.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand your reasoning for not setting up the other *arr apps, due to not having a dedicated server to run them, however you'd still benefit from running them on your PC. They handle the downloading, extraction, categorising and naming of the media you want and they can do that automatically.

Even on your computer, that'll save you time and effort, you can just tell it what shows you want - even shows that aren't out yet and it'll grab them for you whenever they appear. It's great for when you enjoy a show and the next season starts, it just grabs it for you and the show appears one day.

A lot of people start this way and it's only then they think about getting a dedicated device for it - such a device can be a decent little Synology or QNAP NAS, something small, quiet and power efficient but I'd definitely say you don't need to start there. It's worth the effort to try though, believe me.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They handle the downloading, extraction, categorising and naming of the media you want and they can do that automatically.

I'm good with handling this manually, or rather, I don't even have to handle any of this since Stremio takes care of it, and I have neither the hard drive space nor the bandwidth to devote toward allowing a bunch of programs to just start downloading large files perpetually in the background, filling up my hard drive and taking up all my bandwidth lol. The .arr suite is best combined with a seedbox and a dedicated computer. All I have is a 1.5 TB hard drive and no gigabit internet speeds.

And honestly, I don't see what appreciable amount of "time and effort" this is going to save for me. With Stremio, it's as easy as going into the catalog (or using the search bar), clicking a movie, and picking one of the releases from the menu. If I wanna watch a show or movie that isn't out yet or whose upcoming season is yet to be released, I can just add it to my library and turn on notifications.

It doesn't get any easier than that, doesn't require a massive hassle with a set-up process involving several different programs and trial and error, and I don't have to devote hard drive space for every show or movie I want to watch, since Stremio keeps files on a temporary cache that gets deleted at regular intervals, so it doesn't end up filling my hard drive. This system is perfect for me, I have no reason to change it.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well said. I have no idea why people seem to think the the whole sonarr, radarr, prowlarr setup saves time. The whole renaming, metadata and thumbnail gathering, etc isn't saving time for most people as most pirates don't do any of that manually because they don't do it at all. This software is useful for people who want collections of pirated content - especially if they serve it to other people. A family or someone who does piracy for a business, or collectors of media are who these suites work best for.

I have often had to manually intervene when using this supposedly "automatic" software. That and the time, trial, and error it takes to set all of it up make it not worth it for me. It gets especially annoying when it renames episodes to the wrong name, making them confusing to identify and taking time to fix manually. That wouldn't happen if you just didn't rename anything and saves valuable watching time.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Finally, someone speaking sense on a piracy community. So many people around these communities constantly push the .arr suite without ever mentioning that it just isn't worth the time or resources to set up for a single individual watching on their personal computer lol. It honestly gets really grating after a while. It's like you said, these programs are best utilized by media collectors and people serving media to groups of users, like a family. For most average users, Stremio with the Torrentio plug-in is all they need.

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[–] rambos@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your meme is missing one more picture where everything explodes with full servarr setup

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[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago

The next step is using Jellyseerr to tell Sonarr and Radarr to query Jackett to automatically download stuff you requested at the quality you've defined and have it automatically sent to your Transmission server.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah until jackett shits the bed and all of a sudden all indexers fail, and the "official fix" is to completely reinstall.

Edit: Don't downvote me, express your displeasure here and here. Tell 'em I sent ya.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Gotta say, in over 2 years of using this program, I've never had that happen even once.

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[–] Drusenija@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My solution to this has just been to run it in Docker. Update the container and redeploy and it's working again. Only had it happen once or twice though, so not sure if what you're describing is what I experienced or something different.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago

Prowlarr gang checking in

[–] NeutralFlame@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Built in search in qBittorrent? Why am I learning about this only now? This is awesome just gave it a shot

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You may get mixed results with it. I certainly didn't get much out of it.

You might wanna try jackett or sonarr and radarr, which are more fully featured solutions.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I would like to set up an .arr stack that dumps files into my OMV NAS, where Jellyfin can pick them up, but I want the torrent traffic to go through my Proton VPN. Is this a common configuration, or should I be doing something differently?

[–] bzz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

If you are in the docker ecosystem, this is fantastic https://github.com/haugene/docker-transmission-openvpn

You can configure sonarr and radarr around this so that when the torrents are completed, they are renamed and placed in the nas as well as send a webhook to jellyfin to let it know it has been added (instead of it having to to do a manual search)

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not uncommon. I run wireguard in a docker container for Mullvad and then set my qBittorent container to use the network of the wireguard container. If you do something like this you'll need to set routing rules on the VPN so the web interface of your torrent client is accessible over your LAN for the *arr stack. The wireguard docs have a decent guide on how to do this, shouldn't be a problem on OpenVPN either.

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[–] liliumstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is honestly how I find/download most stuff. Almost all trackers on I'm on have jackett support, and then I can choose the exact release I want.

[–] Anid_Vid@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Me who never heard about it: ??

[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im feeling very weird not knowing pingas about what you are talking

[–] fabian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

¿Besas a tu mamà con esa boca?

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[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I NEVER managed to make Jackett's plugin work in my qBbittorent. No matter how many tutorials I follow x)

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You probably have, but did you follow the official configuration tutorial?

I had no trouble setting it up before. Seemed very easy to me. Where are you getting stuck in the process?

Alternatively, you could just search directly in Jackett's interface with the "manual search" option. That's what I do. I find it preferable to setting it up with the Qbit search engine since Jackett's search has more features.

[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I'm far from home on vacation, so I can't answer precisely, but yeah, I followed the official tutorial. Can't remember the error though, but I'm close to making it work. It just gets stuck for whatever reason. Maybe that's because I use qBbittorent in a docker container, don't know.

So yes, I use the manual search when I need something very specific, which I'd rather do from qbit. Otherwise, I use all the *arr suite for my audiovisual needs. Pretty nice and painless.

Thanks for answering and for giving the link :)

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I DDL because I live in america and people here tell me there are no good free VPNs (I do not have disposable income)

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[–] lemming007@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you install search plugins in qBittorrent? When I follow their instructions, paste the plugin URL to add it, nothing happens. I'm using a headless qBittorrent web gui

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