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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Anyone have a TL;DR?

This sounds like you’d have to spend a lot of time managing it and that you’d have to trust the people you know for it to be private.

My rule has always been: everything should be done anonymously online unless you want everyone (including automated dragnets) to know about it.

[–] ashaman2007@lemm.ee 50 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

TL;DR It uses the Matrix protocol to make every post E2E encrypted in the same way a Matrix chat is. Except they added more separation between people in the “Circles” functionality. Instead of everyone seeing all content like in a chat room, you have to invite people to follow your timeline. And only those people who have been invited can see your posts, and vice versa. I’m not sure he said it specifically, but it was implied that unless people have invited each other to see their posts, they can’t interact with each other in the same circles (he used an example of two people not liking each other and both being able to see a 3rd person’s timeline, but not each others timeline/posts). So essentially it offers encryption and social media like usage but with a sane privacy stance…aka nobody can find you via stalking your mutuals and nobody can just google and DM you out of the blue. Basic photo and sharing is available, apparently improving those features is what is planned for this year. You can also self host it if you wanted, as it just runs off a Matrix server (although they currently provide a US and Europe matrix server run by the FUTO company that funds the app development). Looks like they plan on charging for storage space (1.99$/month for 10GB is what it says in the app right now), and I’m not sure how much storage you get for free.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This sounds like how my i want my real life interactions to be governed

[–] krnl386@lemmy.ca 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wasn’t Google Plus used to be called Circles? Man, I feel old!

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

It was a great feature, would allow you to follow people with similar interests and create your own custom categorised circles.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago

I think this would be useful for organizations and clubs

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nice, own Gitlab instance with locked registration (?) so I cannot report this bug:

[–] InevitableWaffles@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I joined the Matrix instance and the dev said, for some reason, F-droid has the old version (1.0.21)rather than current(1.0.27). They are updating the repos and working on it.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

Oh nice, its from their repo not f-droid

[–] shadycomposer@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t feel I understand it when the two words social and privacy are put together.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago

Social= contact with people you want to contact

Privacy= the stuff you share is not sent to random people but only who you want to

It uses the Matrix protocol which is kind of a red flag because of performance, but its encrypted.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Futo? They also make Grayjay, but this looks like a conference organised by Futo about Futo tech? Or am I missing something?

P.S Is this how I link to their channel on lemmy? !futo@peertube.futo.org

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[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[–] solrize@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If you already know the person, why not just email them?

[–] grandel@lemmy.ml 28 points 7 months ago

Why even bother communicating with them? You already know them.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

A: Different usecase B: email leaks metadata

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

And you’d have to go about encrypting your email

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

B: and so does matrix, on which Circles is built

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] delirious_owl 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lots of things aren't even possible to be encrypted on matrix, such as emoji reactions. Those are always sent in clear text.

...just wait till someone is convicted for arson because the police AI dragnet bots flagged you as guilty because you left a "fire" emoji at the wrong time

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

That was my first thought as well. So... It's email.

[–] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

man doesn't understand the purpose of socializing in groups