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I've got to say - I can't see how this is really going to take off.... It's so confusing.

Let me try to explain a bit...

  1. Tried making accounts, got one on lemmy.ml and lemmy.world.
  2. Saw some interesting feeds, but can't load lemmy.ml (502 error - maybe overloaded). However, the 'Fediverse' is linked up - so surely I should be able to find this user and connect to his post without too much hassle?
  3. Try to visit - he's on vlemmy.net - I can't interact without logging in. My account doesn't work - is it a different account for every instance?
  4. Compared to ten minutes on Reddit, after 2 days I still haven't found content and/or interaction that I want. I kind of understand how cool federated stuff is, but I cannot get to the product.
  • r/firefox r/linux r/angryupvote r/jokes - you know.... stuff!

I follow a link for the user and end up seeing that I am not logged in, but a note says:

'If you use a Fediverse account that is able to follow users, you can follow this user.'

I don't understand this - How? Where? There's no context menu...

I AM LOGGED IN here and now... What gives?

If it's this hard for me, I'm sure that this rules out 99% of internet users from switching over... as I'm sure that more than 75% of Reddit users are dumber than I am.

Oh, and finally now I see another notice:

https://i.imgur.com/tozS6RY.png

If you deselect Undetermined, you will not see most content.

WTF does that mean? Where did I select, or have an option to select 'Undetermined'?

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[–] Whisdeer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Try to visit - he’s on vlemmy.net - I can’t interact without logging in. My account doesn’t work - is it a different account for every instance?

No, but you need to access that user through your instance.

If you want to go to gaming@lemmy.ml, go to lemmy.world/c/gaming@lemmy.ml not to lemmy.ml/c/gaming

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As to your last question, the language selector (where you've selected English in your screenshot) also has an option for "undetermined". A lot of content is posted here without a language attached, so by deselecting "undetermined" you'll no longer see that content.

It's ok though, the language drop-down is a multi-select so you can pick as many languages as you want, just make sure you've also got undetermined in there.

[–] Catpocalypse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the tip about undetermined! That explains all the German posts I'm seeing. I'm not -that- fluent!

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe if you keep reading them, you could be!

[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] SPOOSER@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A lot of people in this thread are missing the point. Yes, there are explanations to how to use the fediverse but what this individual is lamenting is that it's so confusing that it took them two days to get to the point of posting for help, whereas on Reddit it would have taken them 10 minutes. The steep learning curve is going to stifle the growth of lemmy.

An argument can be made that those who are unwilling to learn the way that the fediverse works are important because it's simply a process of "weeding out" individuals to keep the communities great. I would argue that this argument fails to understand the point of the fediverse altogether, that if you don't like one community there are plenty of others that can be moderated to your particular standards. Also, if individuals are unable to learn Lemmy quickly enough to begin using it, they'll simply go to one of the corporate-owned social media sites. There needs to be a way for Lemmy to help new users integrate easier, rather than them having to create posts like this asking the community how to simply subscribe to a page they want to browse. Lemmy is amazing and I've really enjoyed it and am excited for its prospects, but it's got a long way to go in terms of user-friendliness before it can truly become what we all want it and know it can be- a viable alternative to corporate-owned social media.

For me it was the sign up process and the questions (I am much more lurker inclined) and the "We're overloaded, please look elsewhere." type messages and I admit, my first post was in the low stakes cats community to minimize discomfort.

I suppose I was trying to show support that yes, there are others of us here that are still learning (I deleted my post accidentally and was delighted to find out that clicking the trash can again brought it back!) as well as to pick up knowledge as a new user also.

[–] Catpocalypse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So, I'm on a different instance - https://sh.itjust.works/ - and as the name says, at least for me, it has just worked. It's been very easy for me to understand with the interface. For looking for communities (that are not on ours or that may have more people/interaction/more established to join I have used https://browse.feddit.de/ and I have successfully joined ones that are on other instances (apologies if my terminology is not right!). I have set it to "all" and it shows me posts from all the other places that are on our list we are associated with, as I understand it.

I have also used Jerboa for mobile app browsing (I believe it is Mlem for iOS)

Aaaaand then I mess up, so still learning!

[–] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 2 points 1 year ago

FWIW, your instance is using the lemmy default UI, most instances are. Ive seen templates going around, ive not seen anyone using them though.

[–] lamentforicarus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To subscribe to outside communities on the instance that you signed up on, go to the search bar on your instance and type in the name of the community @ instance with an exclamation at the beginning.

For example, if you want to follow the Jokes community on lemmy.ml, you would type into your search bar: !jokes@lemmy.ml. It will pop up and you click on it, which will take you to the community. Click on where it says sidebar and you should see the subscribe. You do this for all the communities you want to sign up for that are not apart of your instance.

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