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I started reading nomadology the war machine and immediately fucking bounced off, humanities majors are built different to understand this shit - since then I'm still in messages with her and like we talk about trans stuff occasionally so that's cool.

I came out as trans to her, my best friend and aforementioned very close friend on the tenth anniversary of Thatcher getting munched up by maggots so yeah, loggers ig (pictured: the IRA supersoldier maggots writhing through the wicked witch of the British empire's rotting brain brainworms)

Pictured: my brain trying to read Da Lewd Quatari --> blob-no-thoughts

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Jumping right into the depths of 1000 plateaus right off the bat is a lot to take in, especially the war machine chapter. It's a very dense text and assumes a familiarity with a wide swath of philosophy, and tbh is meant to be a bit esoteric. Don't feel discouraged though!

Here are some better starting points to their work together, if you want to read primary sources:

  • The first two interviews in Chaosophy, pdf readily available online, are more digestible.

  • The Foucault intro and then first chapter of Anti Oedipus

  • The Massumi forward, and the intro in 1000 plateaus

  • edit: also Deleuze's stand alone essay, Postcript on Societies of Control. It's very clear and interesting.

There is a litany of secondary lit on them, but I find them really fun writers to read first hand, even if some of it is absolutely useless imo. I've heard the Eugene Holland reader for 1000 plateaus is good.

These videos are helpful and are pretty chill (edit: he tends to read around their politics tho). Just a dude explaining stuff while he shows you videos of his walks lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS35vUMhww4

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll keep that in mind if I ever try to understand that word salad again, thanks <3

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should ask her to explain and discuss some of it with you! If there is anything theory nerds like, it's explaining and sharing ideas that excite them.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago
[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am declaring a holy war on autocorrect for changing the word poggers to loggers

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] wild_dog@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

i'm the opposite: i got a goth girl to read the Marxism-Leninism-Maoism study guide from FL Press to impress me

[–] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Dolce and Gabbana are overrated anyways

[–] frankfurt_schoolgirl@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah I read a little of 1000 plateus in college, but I never really understood the concept of the "rhizome". I want to learn more someday

Then, smile, nod, and go "oh that makes sense" while she explains a massive amount of post modern philosophy to you.

Then, tell her she's nice to talk to, and ask her if she wants to check out the local anarchist book store sometime and hit up the farmers market after.

[–] Pseudoscience@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I tried reading Paradise Lost to impress a boy in Junior High. I gave up quickly. Didn't get the guy.

But hey! Now I read whatever I want. But I usually don't have the time, because my fiance and I have a lot of shows to watch. 😂😅

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I couldn't really hack it with all the complicated philosophy stuff so now I just stick to sci-fi, history and if I'm feeling brave political theory

[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Same, people are like "omg you need to read all of the theory ever made to do a communism" and I'm just like kitty-cri

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The most important part of being a communist is telling other people to read theory that you've never read

[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Which we would all know if we read checks notes Stalin's "Against Vulgarizing the Slogan of Self-Criticism"

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

everyone's all like 'have you read kapital? have you read kapital?' you don't READ kapital, you WEAR it

recommending you procure (read: hand-craft) french philosopher-referencing attire, in lieu of actually reading. reading is for nerds who can't sew

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

rhizomes are pretty cool, I read a bit of 1000 Plateaus a long time ago, helped me get beyond the lib frame worldview I had been forced into at the time a bit

they got a few interesting concepts, but probably much more efficient to find a good youtuber to get familiar with this stuff honestly

[–] ilyenkov@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

TFW no hot friend to read D&G with :(

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are we talking about Deluge, the second novel in the great Polish nationalist epic?

Cause the movie has some really good swordighting.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I was doing a dumb thing of trying to reference Deleuze and Guattari to hide that I didn't know how to spell their names

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The only thing I read/sorta understood from Delouse and Gondwana was deterritorialization, which to be fair is probably pretty easy to understand and also I barely understand it. Something about Che T-shirts.

I did read a bunch of Derrida to try farm as many fake internet points as possible, before I realized that the world didn't work like that and I could just talk out my ass.

[–] PixlShft@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I just keep the Rubber Band Man playing in the back of my mind as I process the funky facility and jazzbone rhizomes.

https://youtu.be/KSMVflSBKx8