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The Illinois State Supreme Court found a strict assault weapons ban passed after the Highland Park shooting to be constitutional in a ruling issued Friday.

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[–] money_loo@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Finally, some good fucking news.

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

In the ruling, which was 4-3, Justice Elizabeth Rochford wrote, "First, we hold that the exemptions neither deny equal protection nor constitute special legislation because plaintiffs have not sufficiently alleged that they are similarly situated to and treated differently from the exempt classes. Second, plaintiffs expressly waived in the circuit court any independent claim that the restrictions impermissibly infringe the second amendment. Third, plaintiffs’ failure to cross-appeal is a jurisdictional bar to renewing their three-readings claim."

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What do you guys think of an "USA-News" sub?

Always those "US court decides X over weird US law, Court 2 decides Y, Court 3 decides both are idiots" littering the news.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either way, us news is still going to be posted to news because it is news. It makes no specification on location and there seems to be far more US users than anywhere else. If you want to see other news, post it.

It's probably be a better option to make a "non-us news" community.

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed. There’s already a thriving non-US news community at lemmy.world/c/world

[–] doomer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure all of the people you don't want having assault weapons in states like Illinois already have them.

I'm not so sure the ones those people dream of targeting have yet acquired reciprocal defenses.

Happy to see less guns around, but I do worry about the pre-existing distribution of them.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes but everyone who wanted to smoke in the 80s and everyone who wants to smoke today does- but there are only less smokers and less smoke inside nowadays because it was legislated.

change can only come through attempting change

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First, you have to start somewhere. If one person legally purchased a nuclear bomb, I don't think they shouldn't pass a law preventing anyone else from purchasing a nuclear bomb.

Second, you're not going to be carrying around any long gun. Those will be for home defence at most, likely just a range toy (and also to be shown during a protest to make sure other people know your people are armed). Maybe it'll be useful if we end up in a civil war or something, idk. A handgun is nearly as good at killing people and can be carried around easily. If you want protection from these people then you want a handgun.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the big problem. There are a bunch of gun stores in East Chicago, because it's in Indiana. People just cross over state lines, buy guns, and go back to Chicago proper.

Well if you’re a resident of Illinois you can’t go to another state and buy a gun from a licensed dealer. You’d have to have it shipped to an FFL in your state. Since this rule is in effect then the FFL in Illinois wouldn’t sell it to you.

The only way you can go to another state and get a gun is if it’s a private sale.

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The obsession of guns in the USA is insane.

  • Sandy Hook massacre of 2011 did not change anything.
  • Las Vegas massacre of 2017 did not change anything.
  • High school massacre of 2018 in Santa Fe, TX did not change anything
  • Grocery store massacre of 2019 in El Paso did not change anything
  • Robb Elementary massacre of 2022 in Uvalde did not change anything.
  • Outlet mall massacre of 2023 in Allen, TX did not change anything

(yes there are many more mass shooting prior to 2011 and in between. These are just the ones I can recall as of writing this post)

American Exceptionalism at its best

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do states have "Supreme Courts" in the US? What an odd naming scheme.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. Each state has a Supreme Court of the state, and then there the Supreme Court of the United States for matters that regard the federation of the states. If it's only a state matter, it won't go to the SCotUS. The SC of the state is the highest court where the state law is applicable.

[–] Korn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Except for NY

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ah no my point was just about the name given to it, where I'm from (India) we have a similar system just that the highest state level court is called "High Court" and not State Supreme Court. There's only one Supreme Court and that does the federal level stuff. Wouldn't seem very supreme if every state had one did it :P

[–] delicious_tvarog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The intention is that each state has full self-determination as long as it doesn't run counter to federal law. Each state has its own legislature, executive, and judiciary.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, all of them do as far as I know.

[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

But but, if I go to dairy queen, who will protect me from Margaret and her damn screaming kids

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

This is a bad news