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[–] kbal@fedia.io 51 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As the comment there says, the surprise is that not every instance is blocked yet.

But I've seen hardly any Chinese on the fediverse, so they probably don't care that much. And it's not just that I've stuck to the English-speaking parts, there's been lots of Japanese and various European languages. I suppose even if it otherwise would have a chance to catch on there, Chinese users know that if it did it quickly would get blocked.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I've only seen Taiwanese on Mastodon, especially as they're leaving Twatter due to Chinese bot activity.

[–] Daz@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Wouldn't they just use a VPN? I know they're technically illegal in China but from what I've heard lots of people still use them regularly.

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

VPNs are not illegal in China. And one can use it to circumvent any restrictions.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Non-approved VPNs used to circumvent the great wall are absolutely illegal, though largely tolerated (and observed), but the authorities can and have used them as an excuse to bring people in.

Source: have actual been to China and played the whole "which VPN will work on which network" game many times.

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[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 50 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's like when your dad doesn't love you

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 months ago

how will we ever recover from this epic pwnage 🥱

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Does anyone know a reliable site for checking? This is just a random one I found: http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=lemmy.ml

lemmy.world seems to not be blocked. I have no idea how they make these decisions 🤷

Edit to add: FWIW Wikipedia has a short list of test sites: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_mainland_China#External_links

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Seems like hexbear.net is blocked as well

[–] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago

But chairman Xi what about our emotes!?

xigma-male

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

Oh SHIT THE LAYOFFS GOT TO US lea-breakdown

[–] D61@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

Well yeah, why wouldn't China block a site full of libs?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Interesting. It wasn’t when I tested it yesterday or several weeks ago using this: http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=hexbear.net

But I have no idea if these tools are any good. This one seems to indicate that it’s accessible but very slow https://www.dotcom-tools.com/china-firewall-test/

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

It might be discussion of piracy/VPNs or something like that. China's got rules about that stuff too AFAIK. Maybe if one of the admins can read/write Simplified Chinese they could reach out to the relevant government bureau and request clarification.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 38 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I imagine that the dynamic here is reminiscent of the western media's self-censorship. Western journalists learn to conform to certain standards and topics because they understand what kinds of articles are more likely to be published and advance their careers. This is largely influenced by the preferences of media company owners and advertisers, creating a selection pressure for content producers to conform to these expectations.

In contrast, in China, censors strive to identify potentially politically sensitive content and tend to err on the side of more aggressive censorship. This is due to the understanding that being overly cautious in such matters will not result in negative consequences, encouraging a more conservative approach to content regulation.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wow, stop saying sensible things. Be less correct. Thanks!

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[–] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 27 points 8 months ago

Please, someone tell comrade ~~Stalin~~ Xi that this is all just a terrible mistake!

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago (24 children)

Isn't lemmy.ml full of tankies?

[–] beanson@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

I made an account a long while ago when it was the only instance with any content but I'm just a lurker looking for memes and tech news. Feeling like I should change instance these days...

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[–] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

some of the gymnastics in this thread are hilarious. critical support is a thing you can criticize china's various Ls while still supporting the chinese people.

[–] delirious_owl 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (20 children)

Why would State Capitalists allow discussions about actual communism? God forbid he people get it into their head to form trade unions..

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago (17 children)

I can't quite tell if this is a parody, the trade union bit makes it seem sincere, but the self-importance to think that lemmy is too left for China to allow is just amazing.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago (10 children)

i'm sure Chinese people need patronizing crackers from the west to instruct them on what communism actually is

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[–] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago

Any social networks that have non-censored participants are. Usually, China's presence in social networks outside of its borders are for propaganda purposes.

[–] Sims@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago (8 children)

The Western 'free' population is one of the most information censored/restricted populations in the world, and yet they are flabbergasted that China and many many other nations won't allow propaganda from western oligarchs into their country. It doesn't matter that an information firewall is the single most important military defense against the Capitalist information war. That's btw why the western world are propagandizing their population for 'free speech', so we all can see that wevil China don't want free propaganda, sorry, speech.

The most amazing and Incredible is how hateful attitudes can be bought for a few propaganda dollars in the western for profit information market. So western people actually believe all the hateful things the western oligarchy says about China (and ALL the other enemies of the oligarchs).

How convenient and completely coincidental that the western population have the same opinions about nations and world leaders as the top elite.. Could it be that.. nooooo.. no no.. Western news are the BEST, and no Capitalist elite would lie about something like that to their own population, oh no no..

[–] kbal@fedia.io 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, that's a perfectly good explanation for why they need to block wikipedia, deviantart, archiveofourown, github, bandcamp, lemmy.ml, and mastodon.social: they're all just fronts in the Capitalist Information War

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Breaks Community Rules

You’ve been subpoenaed by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Is there someplace we can contact to change this?

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Must be a new anti-白左 legislation of some sort.

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