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2016 will never die. (hexbear.net)

submitted 6 months ago by InevitableSwing@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Before that graphic she showed a clip 2023 interview she did with Hilldawg.

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[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 55 points 6 months ago

maddow spent like 20 minutes rehashing the 2016 russian interference narrative and said nothing about the pied piper strategy, clinton not campaigning in wisconsin, nor last month's statement from putin about preferring biden to trump in the present.

i guess liberals can remember history more than a week if it's more convenient than what's actually happening.

[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago

last month's statement from putin about preferring biden to trump in the present

Putin is really stupid but also playing international 4D chess

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

last month's statement from putin about preferring biden to trump in the present

Really? Trump being elected would be a final blow for Ukraine.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

President Vladimir Putin said that Russia would prefer to see U.S. President Joe Biden win a second term, describing him as more experienced and predictable than Donald Trump — even though Moscow strongly disagrees with the current administration’s policies.

Putin’s comments during an interview with Russian state television Wednesday were his first about the upcoming U.S. presidential election, likely to pit Biden against Trump. They were rare praise for Biden, a fierce critic of the Russian leader who has frequently lauded Trump.

“Biden, he’s more experienced, more predictable, he’s a politician of the old formation,” Putin said, when asked which candidate would be better for Russia. “But we will work with any U.S. leader whom the American people trust.”

https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3 not sure if that's tracking garbage on the end there, you can search for the quote it's covered a lot

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[-] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 52 points 6 months ago

So the Russians can hack our elections while losing a war against the mighty Ukraine? Impressive.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 47 points 6 months ago

Bit idea- liberal who says "they haven't even seen paved roads, but they know how to hack? Unlikely"

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

If a couple of 100.000 dollars' worth of Facebook ads can change the outcome of your election, then maybe that says a lot more about your political system than it does about the guys allegedly paying for the ads.

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[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 44 points 6 months ago

It really is wild that dems want to constantly rehash 2016 considering, ya know, they blew the easiest election in a century in plain view of everybody.

And the lesson the dems took from that was to double down on everything that made her lose.

[-] davel@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

The Clintonian dynasty and their stans will never self-crit. They’ll blame anything & everything but themselves for 2016.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

It truly was the beginning of "the democratic party cannot fail, it can only be failed" being the unironic party line

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

Biden winning 2020 pretty much ossified the conviction in the minds of liberals that they were right all along and 2016 was a "fluke/Russian hack/left-wing failure...etc"

Completely ignoring of course the fact it was covid that tanked Trump, not Biden

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

But it was her turn...

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 44 points 6 months ago

In other news - libs love milking Trump's "bloodbath" soundbite. They can't seem to understand that betting worked up and frothing at the mouth about a one-word Trumpism is giving Trump yet more free media and making him live even more rent free in their heads.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

People making way more money than me having way less understanding of the zeitgeist. Good times

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

Wait a fucking minute, is that Jen Psaki? Biden's press secretary for like 2-3 years, lied all the time to cover for him? I sure bet we can rely on her to be unbiased.

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

She went back to brunch so hard too. Biden got elected, and after she ran enough interference for him, she quit and got a job as a pundit on a 24 hour news channel

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[-] davel@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

RussiaGate is still an endless game of whack-a-mole on lemm.ml. I don’t even want to know what goes on at .world or reddit-logo .

Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away

[-] homhom9000@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

The funniest thing about Russiagate is that they couldn't come up with anything beyond, "the Russians are sowing discord by posting online about America". Not even hackers changing numbers or paying politicians off in a lobby group, just saying bad things to change people's mind in an election year. And liberals eat it up.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

Russiagate is such a hot button topic for them too. They don't seem to ever ruminate the specific details of the "significant" role American intel agencies said Russia played in the election. And they ignore how that "significant" role becomes so minor with adequate context. I like to remind them that CNN gave Trump something like a billion dollars in free media in the 2016 campaign. And every media outlet was feeding on the "Trump news" trough to grab eyeballs, sell ads, etc.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Russia's greatest crime in 2016 dwarfs the billion dollars of free media for Trump

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

Then of course they say it’s okay when the US does the same to Russia, China, Cuba and every bad country US doesn’t like

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

"The CIA isn't all powerful, controlling all elections throughout the world, you're being a conspiracy crazy, and denying the agency of the local people around the world"

Also

"Putin controls Trump and his cultists. Xi controls the youth of America through TikTok and video games. We must ban all disinformation"

Liberalism folks.

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[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They claimed Russia hacked Hilary's emails but that turned out to be a lie.

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[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

Voting is still an essential tool of the bourgeois so they pretty much can’t say someone actually changed the outcome of the election otherwise elections themselves would be unnecessary.

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[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I swear to God there is almost nobody i want to yell "go away" at more than Hillary Clinton.

I mean, Kissinger is dead, so now Hilldawg is in the top spot.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

"go away"

Me too.

Lin-Manuel Miranda is really dropping the football by not already having a 2016-themed musical called Hillary. Libs cannot get enough of her. More than anything else in the world - they want to her to win in 2016. And they'll never fully accept she didn't do it. These could be the lyrics to the lead song...

What if... (Oh, yes?)
What if... (Say more.)
What if... (Do tell!)

Hillary won! (Eff yeah!)

"Eff yeah" in matinees because children are more likely to be present but the full monty "Fuck yeah!" in evening performances. The Hillary merch shop instantly sells out of the two versions of the t-shirt every time they restock. And there's a bit of a scandal when LMM Productions starts aggressively suing even the tiniest stores (Esty, etc) for selling "Eff yeah"/"Fuck yeah!" t-shirts with the text in a font similar to the venerable HillaryFont™.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

Please step away from the lathe.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Other songs include...

2016/1776
Big Bad Bill Is Sweet William Now (Hip-hop remix)
Chelsea in the Wings
Copium Is the Bestium
Love a Liberal (Unironically)
Russia! Russia! Russia!
Tim Kaine in da Membrane
We Win Arguments and Elections

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

snipes-hesitation don’t make me do it, comrade

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

In ultraVIP performances in LA, NYC, & DC (sorry real America!) - special performances and appearances by...

U2 (via satelite from Las Vegas) + Tom Hanks
The Beach Boys + President Bill Clinton
Chicago + Lena Dunham
Cypress Hill + Tim Kaine
Grand Funk Railroad + Jon Stewart
John Legend + Amy Schumer
[Extra Special Musical Guest(s)] + Oprah

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

shinji-screm

[-] buh@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago

They start election interference season earlier every year 😒

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

The media was absolutely desperate to try to make the primaries a horse race so now that they finally had to admit what everybody knew 8 months ago, that it was gonna be Biden Trump, they've gotta come up with sonething else and the Russian interfearance shit had every lib in the country learning the names of third string state department ghouls.

[-] edge@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I swear I’m going to be perpetually stuck some time between 2016 and 2020 (inclusive). Not just because of elections, but they sure don’t help.

How the fuck has it been >3 years since 2020?

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

Putin literally shit in my pants. Again.

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[-] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

Minecraft looking ass ballot box

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

minecraft

There's no lid, how do they open it....

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

They don’t. These days they use vibe spectography to measure the relative amplitudes of the Putler and Democracy peaks and extrapolate from there

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

Automaton's election interference has already begun

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

Due to an unusually late and strong El Niño effect this year, Russian election interference season has started the earliest on record since 1976!

[-] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

Well, nevertheless

[-] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If we never got rid of smoking as a cultural instution we would be thinner and hotter and all these boomers would be dead from making deals in smoke filled rooms by now. Lung cancer would be a fair trade to end their reign

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[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

Are the putins in the room with us cnbc?

[-] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

HIGHER IN THE STREETS, AND I KNOW IT'S MY TIME TO GOOOOOO

[-] davel@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Russian bot Russian bot Russian bot MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes

Hamas is a Russian bot and Russian bots are Hamas.

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Holy shit, the MSM actually talks about Russian bots? I thought that just some dumb bullshit that perpetually-online libs said to quash any meaningful debate or criticism of the Dems.