Mullvad is the only one, though it's in large part due to me not being in a situation where I have any important software needs in my personal life, meaning I can get away with just free options and cracked versions whenever I need something.
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I really want to switch to Mullvad but it's difficult for me to justify 5β¬ a month when other VPN services regularly have specials offering US$2 a month if I prepay 2 years
If you just want to change your IP, there is no reason to use Mullvad. If you care about your privacy Mullvad is great. You can pay in xmr or even in cash by mail.
I get that, but I also want to be able to support services like Mullvad, since they're just an honest, scandal-free service. But at the same time, the only functionality I need is pretending I'm not in America to certain websites
I don't think a VPN counts as SaaS, it's something that costs the company money constantly to run, SaaS is more like the Adobe apps, which are not a service at all and it doesn't cost them money for me to not uninstall it.
At that rate it just sounds like you're trying to categorically redefine SaaS to just be the crappy ones, while excluding anything with a reason to be a service
If it's an internet service that should be one, it's not SaaS. I'm not redefining it, that's just the definition. SaaS is just software, but as a (subscription) service.
Just because a service is hosted in the cloud does not mean it is SaaS. The service has to replace a software solution, or be replaceable with a software.
A VPN client is software. A VPN server is software. I can run a VPN client or a VPN server on my own hardware.
But any VPN server I install is going to use my own network connection. Not an anonymizing proxy. No piece of software I could run can replace the anonymizing service that a VPN provider offers. The anonymization feature of a commercial VPN provider is not SaaS.
Gmail (especially as part of the Google Apps suite allowing Google to handle the email for your own domain) could be considered SaaS. I could install my own email servers to handle email traffic in and out of my domain(s), but I'd rather pay for the convenience of not having to maintain my own email server software. Gmail, then, is a good example of SaaS.
I think digital service would be a more appropriate term here as some of that you mentioned is not SaaS.
With that said, I do have a few subscriptions myself:
- VPN
- VPS (this is IaaS, actually...)
- shared cloud hosting (PaaS)
- domain name registrations
How is mullvad (or any commercial VPN) considered SaaS? They are providing networking services: relaying your traffic through a pathway other than your direct ISP.
I think of SaaS as something more like Google Docs: a cloud-based suite that replaces a locally installed office suite. Microsoft Office 2021 is software; Office 365 is SaaS.
Alternatively, a locally-installed application that operates without the use of the provider's resources, but still requires an ongoing subscription for continued use. The software isn't owned by the user, it is just a service the user continues to purchase.
I've got several subscription-based services that operate "in the cloud". Webhosting, VoIP trunk provider, VPN, a half dozen apps on my phone. The only one I would consider SaaS, though, is a weather app that seems to pull its data directly from the National Weather Service.
Why are you paying for weather
You get more sunny days with pro
Hot air balloon pilot. I am not paying for weather; I am paying for a convenient packaging of specific weather factors not commonly reported by mainstream sources.
For example, a map of the wind forecast at 100' AGL. Any commercial source can give me wind forecast at the surface. Aviation specific apps can give me forecasts at 3000, 6000, 9000 feet. But a forecast map of winds at the treetop level is rather difficult to come by.
The data is available from NWS, but it's commonly provided as a vertical wind profile for a specific location, rather than a map of winds at a particular altitude. This app seems to compile vertical wind profile forecasts for many locations into a single map.
That particular map (and several other weather charts) is a premium feature of a commercial weather app for Android. I found it useful, so I subscribed.
None of them are FOSS. Dunno about calling them SaaS.
- My email provider, 1 β¬ per month, posteo.de.
- My VPS (virtual private server), netcup.de.
- Does Amazon Prime count?
I work in IT, and different definitions of what SaaS means are starting to wreak real havoc on the architecture as a whole.
We are better served just quitting the acronyms and taking the time to talk about a more detailed description of what the service actually adds in terms of value.
Amazon Prime is a subscription for shipping, video streaming, gaming benefits and more. Since software is not the primary goal, but a means of delivery for these other services, I will not consider Amazon Prime SaaS.
- Bitwarden: I could host it myself, but it's better if it is secretly elsewhere in case I need up...
- Backblaze: backups from my server (to which everything else will soon backup to)
- Spotify: it's convenient
- GPhotos: until I'm done migrating to Immich locally
- PIA: yarr, and also avoiding region stuff
Monarch Money
Mint is going away and I need a polished mostly automatic way of tracking my income, spending and investments. Sure there are cheaper or subscription free ways of doing it but I really need something that just connects to all my accounts and helps me visualize things. I'm willing to pay for the service and I get to leave Intuit behind.
Midjourney
I use it to make concept art for characters, places and things in my tabletop game. I'm looking to drop midjourney and do this all locally though but haven't gotten around to setting that up yet. In the meantime it's still pretty cheap and easy to use.
These might be the only actual SaaS products mentioned in this thread.
Posteo for mail and Mullvad for VPN. That's about it.
SaaS?
Software as a service. Cloud basically...
Ah, I see. Then it would be Tuta for mail and Mullvad for VPN.
It's when you complain to your mother about her cooking, and she gives you that look
With Yunohost being a thing, I'm down to nothing.
I just installed it an hour ago! Small world. I still pay for a small vultr box with next cloud for convenience sake.
Proton mail and AirVPN
Tuta
Tuta posts blatant misinformation about their competition on their socials. They're willing to lie to potential customers if it gets them money; I wouldn't trust them with any of my data.
That's the first time I hear it, could you share some example / sources?
They've since deleted it, but I pointed out that they posted a fake screenshot of an email claiming that Gmail was shutting down. They did reply to me, saying they "didn't fact check before posting", but it's Gmail; if it was shutting down, that would have been the easiest thing in the world to verify. Zero attempt was made to verify what they posted. A cursory glance through their Mastodon account shows a lot of other provocative and misleading headlines.
bitwarden, PIA
ProtonVPN, Google Drive
Why not proton drive?
I'm not the person you're replying to, but I'm guessing it's for Google Photos storage. It's the reason I pay for Google One.
Yep!
Proton drive will auto backup photos. Google is the last person I want having all my photos. If its features immich is awesome. Self hosted.
It is not the backup of the photos itself, but the extra features it provides along with it - like grouping of faces / text searching / etc
Immich does this.
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Hardware and hypervisors as a service so to say
3 VPS hosts
Technically IaaS I guess
This community might call me an idiot for this, but nord vpn. I got a long subscription a while back for cheap. I'm in a good enough financial position that I can afford a streaming service or two without issue plus this vpn to hop regions. I value my time more than that amount of money, and I only watch so much tv, so I'm really not feeling any fomo from this strategy, plus I don't really have concerns about getting into trouble. I'm streaming, not downloading, and using services that I pay for to do so. If it's not legal to do this, I'm not exactly a power user so I'd be surprised if I were a big enough fish to come after.
Another one for me is PlayStation Plus (extra tier, specifically). I initially started paying for the base tier to be able to play Elden Ring with my friends. Then I saw that for a little more than I was already paying per year, I could get access to a pretty impressive catalog of games. I paid for another year of it when it went on sale like a month or two before they raised the price for it lol. Idk the exact cost now, but I figure as long as I'm trying more than like 3 games in a year then it's worth it. But even better is that because I'm not buying individual games, I don't feel pressured to dump 100+ hours into a game I'm not loving, so I can just stop if I lose interest and move on to another game. I played 2/3 of Ghost of Tsushima and just didn't care after that so I stopped.
Idk, maybe I'm fucking weird, but I feel like I'm getting really good value from doing this. I rarely care about watching or playing something more than once, so I'm okay with paying a fraction of the cost of owning these things just to have temporary access, and then not have clutter leftover when I decide I'm done. I want memories, not stuff.
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I find ngrok useful enough to pay for. When I want to demo some software I can run it locally and set up a temporary tunnel. When I used to have a VPS I would do this with SSH port forwarding, but I'm told that tunneling TCP in TCP can lead to some weirdness.
I used to have a dyndns subscription to get a stable domain name for my home router. It's kind of another way to do the same thing - instead of a tunnel I could forward a part.
SourceHut and Kagi.
ChatGPT 4 (1 month only, sick of "Error in input stream"), Proton Suite, Spotify
Google One and iCloud+
Google Drive makes it easy to collaborate on files with my spouse, family or colleagues. Makes it easy to have my media available where ever without having to host it locally or expose my local network to the internet. And free webhosting for my personal website using Google sites.
iCloud integration with my photo library is top notch. iCloud+ "hide my email" is great for privacy on my personal domain and a lot better than trying to deal with security and deliverability for myself.
I could probably get ROI on infrastructure and storage just by buying a NAS in 3 years or less. But I won't get the time back to get the same level of security, reliability, and buy in for others so spending $99 a year on each is worth it for me.
Google One (Google Photos) Backblaze (lots of stuff) Microsoft 365 (MS Office) SimpleLogin (anonymous email addresses)
I want a VPN, but I canβt spend more. I want an alternative to my Backblaze cloud backup. Any cheaper solutions? I have over 20 TB of data.
If you're strictly doing backup you could checkout Hetzner's "Storage box" (or something like that name). For something more S3-like I like StorJ, but, that might be a lateral move price-wise from Backblaze, I'm not sure.
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