chapotraphouse

Yeah, I think people are a little hair trigger on the bullying. Personally I think the best way to do it is to give them one layer of helpful explanations, and see if they reply in bad faith.

Lib shit

Actually that's racist/propaganda/etc and here's why

You're a CCP bot

Hog out or log out, PPB, etc

If they come here, go Mad Max on 'em.

If you go there, be on good behavior (unless they are very obviously a chud, screeching about "woke" and stuff)

When you post PPB in another instance, it's not just the person you're replying to who will see it, and the rest of them aren't desensitized to it. Be selective about when you drop a tactical PPB.

Edit: OK I said this and then 20 mins later posted PPB on another instance BUT I his it behind a link AND the user was asking for a list of instances that, "tolerate basic slurs"

I will behave as I did on the old sub: I will be as nice as they are, as mean as they are, as thoughtful as they are, or as dumb as they are.

Depends, if they're doing the whole "You're a tankie Chinese bot!" thing or the tired "Vuvuzela gorillion dead no iPhone!" shit, I'll reply however I want.

I also think a lot of the dunking has sucked. I get everyone's hard for the opportunity, but there's been some pretty weak shit. A lot of jumping the gun before someone has even made themselves look bad and acting like they're super owned.

Yeah, I feel like doing it in other instances is a bit much

When they come onto our turf and start lib posting though, then the comes out in full force

frankly i think all these posts about dunking need to be banned. i am neither pro or anti dunking i am just tired of y'all posting about dunking. screenshots should be kept to the dunk tank. these kinds of posts - whether they are 'haha come bark at this dumb liberal' or 'please stop immediately barking at the liberals' are both annoying.

let me find the people to dunk on organically please i treat hexbear as a roleplaying sim with a complex NPC reaction system

No, let the wave of pig poop crest and fall upon their beaches

Tone police are cops

My approach in the broader federation is going to be this:

1. Freely and viciously dunk on public figures. "Joe Biden's brain is pudding, and that evil asshole has no fucking business deciding what to have for dinner, let alone holding the highest office on the planet, and I'll celebrate his eventual death from natural causes with a month-long party."

2. Educate posters with facts. Be as civil as is reasonable, but don't fetishize civility. "Your respect for Joe Biden is a mistake, and here's why."

3. If the poster is 100% confirmed to be a public figure, see #1. "Joe Biden, I hope you spend your final years in untreatable pain."

There has always been this kind of divide in the nature of hexbear, the extent to which it is either a safe-space for leftists or a place to try and attract and deprogram liberals

Don’t be needlessly cruel but don’t be “civil” for the mere sake of it. Many people on the internet are marginalized IRL (disproportionately true for spaces like Hexbear which are accepting of gender nonconformity and communism) and it can feel good to turn it on others when we’re all just usernames shouting into the void. Be the better person, always assume you are speaking to a relative, your past self, or future friend/comrade and not a mortal enemy.

there's a reason the old sub became as big as it did

This time they'll give us credit for being nice!

I agree, I think at least sometimes Libs can have little a civility, as a treat. If you can, argue in good faith until that's not an option.

Personally I also think responding to frothing libs accusing everything that moves of being a chinese bot by just being a normal ass person is pretty funny, I like it

Soc dem classical liberal here (i think). I am so confused, can someone explain why I deserve to be "dunked"?

Hot take, PPB wasn't funny on /r/chapotraphouse and it's never going to be funny.

It has given rise to some funny reactions, but to say PPB is funny because someone freaks out at it is a tail wags dog sorta thing.

Yeah I think maintaining federation as long as possible to get as many stray libs into our zone as possible is a good thing.

Fiiiine, I'll tone down the ppb

Unless they do some fash shit, then i'm opening fire

I don't think this is gonna be relevant for too long, they're all going to defederate from us anyway because we're evil putler xi bots or whatever

I like to think I try to engage in mostly good faith (I don't necessarily think a bit of irony that contains a legitimate point being made is bad) until they show that they're not doing so at which I don't see much reason to continue trying

Look, I've kept my stuff to our instance. I'm doing my part! TM

yeah, dunking and PPB is for bad faith ppl who come to HB. be informative and communicate clearly on other instances. the only reason i can see for federating w these lib instances is to educate and agitate (not agitate them personally, but agitate them against capitalism). we cant do that if we get defederated within a week of interacting w them. also maybe dont joke abt conducting ddos attacks. some lemmy.world users took that and ran w it to denounce us further. be earnest and understand not everyone has had the same exposure to socialist education as us

no more half measures walter