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[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FYI, the article title is responsible for calling PragerU a “University”, not me! (community post guidelines)

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Prager U is specifically named Prager U because they aren't a university and therefore can't call themselves Prager University. Let's not give them any more legitimacy than they deserve which is none.

[–] bumble@beevibes.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's even more absurd to see it referred to as a Conservative University. They wish

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 7 points 1 year ago

Just means this website fell for it. If enough do they'll become synonymous with conservative education which is the point.

[–] ConsciousCode@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't Florida just announce they were going to use PragerU videos in their curriculum? They might be getting to calling themselves a real university sooner rather than later...

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 year ago

PragerU is not a real university.

[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get the feeling that the Republicans are going to start openly running with a "bring back slavery" platform. I feel like I'm being hyperbolic here, but their mask has gone off so far, really since Obama was elected. All they have left is hate.

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

They're letting DeSantis carry that torch, like they did with Trump with his open corruption, hate, lack of accountability, racism, etc. If he wins then suddenly it's okay because it's just politics, both sides, just an opinion, etc.

[–] Rinnarrae@beehaw.org 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"What did the culture and society at the time treat as no big deal?" Are they aware that even at the time at lot of people thought Columbus was an asshole? Even when not including the natives.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago

In Europe. The abolitionistmovement started not long after slavery. Most of of the newspapers in England had articles portraying slavery as a positive pleasant enviroment. Purely to try and remove the political power of the abolitionist movement.

Not much has changed really.

[–] RosemarySolomon@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Another fun quote: "Being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no?". Plenty to grab from that quote, but there are reports the indigenous people got so ~~depressed~~ excited to enter the kingdom of heaven they essentially did nothing for as long as they could, simply waiting to die.

Also I watched this full video, because I feel like it's important to get full context of these things. I learned some other stuff:

  • Muslims blocked the route to China, India, etc. and Muslims were at war with Spain. No particular country, just "Muslims".
  • The indigenous population ate people, and sure Europe wasn't great but at least they didn't EAT people. Plus, they worshiped false gods and not the GOD, so while the folks Columbus met were pretty nice the rest of them were pretty terrible. Still, he had to spread Christianity to the tribes he met too.
  • Surprisingly, the tribes Columbus met were actually intelligent, and could even do stuff like copy the sounds/words Columbus made! Amazing what these primitive people could accomplish! It's like they're almost human.
  • Everything needs context of their time. For example, slavery has been around forever so we can't really judge from our 500 years future perspective. We also can't use other people's opinions on Columbus at the time because they were competitors of Columbus. Thus, any criticism of Columbus (and perhaps, anyone in history) is just people not understanding that events in the past can't be judged from our lens of the present.

Columbus, slavery = forgiven!

There's a good 3-part Behind the Bastards episodes on Columbus. If anyone hasn't had a listen it's a great overview of what Columbus really was: a bastard.

Hardcore History (I know, Dan Carlin is looked down upon by proper historians, but I still think he has value as a storyteller and he does cite his sources) and Our Fake History both had multipart episodes on him too.

Spoiler. He ends up committing some light genocide.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 28 points 1 year ago

"Prager University" not an actual university.

It's like saying I have a degree from BBQ University only not as tasty.

[–] TerryTPlatypus@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're more interested, a YouTuber over here went over PragerU propaganda in this kids show, and I think it shows something important about how propaganda can present a certain world view as well as hide it. Prager U For Kids: A Horrible YouTube Channel

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well, that’s very horrible!

[–] TerryTPlatypus@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Locked, loaded, and ready to fire! I am sorry about decreasing your faith in humanity, and sorry if I throw a lot at you.

And here are a few to restore your faith:

Happy watching, and keep dreaming!

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really did ask for that, didn’t I? lol

[–] prole@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Now it would be rude if you didn't watch all of them lol

[–] Vox@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah slavery was no big deal, and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki just left people with a couple of burns is all.

/s

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An actual big deal for the conservative: rainbow flags being sold at Target.

[–] ConsciousCode@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is single-handedly causing the downfall of Western Civilization (TM) /s

(imagine queers being that powerful lmao)

I dunno. The Jewish people are part of a global cabal with access to space lasers and they still fell victim to mass extermination. I imagine that the queer community is playing a similar long con.

/s

[–] Vox@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

They're puttin' chemicals in the water!

[–] reric88@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Japan should be thanking us! Look at how successful it is, now! So us bombing them has only been helpful.

/s

I feel sick after that

[–] prole@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

Oh cool. In case anyone didn't see this the other day: https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4141994-what-is-prageru-the-conservative-education-platform-now-in-florida-schools/

So we can expect that they'll be showing these cartoons to kids in public schools in Florida. So that's super fucking cool.

[–] acutfjg@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Of course they do

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The ruling class want slavery. They want everyone slaving at subsistence wages to make them richer. Really, Trump's big contribution to Republicans is showing that you can say the quiet parts out loud. Openly destroy rights, praise dictators, threaten political opponents, ignore conflicts of interest and calls for recusal, open bribery at the highest levels, unqualified cronies in positions of power, threats against the legal system, cries for insurrection. The power of the people has been systematically erased.