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Palestinian medical staff in Gaza have told the BBC they were blindfolded, detained, forced to strip and repeatedly beaten by Israeli troops after a raid at their hospital last month.

Ahmed Abu Sabha, a doctor at Nasser hospital, described being held for a week in detention, where, he said, muzzled dogs were set upon him and his hand was broken by an Israeli soldier.

His account closely matches those of two other medics who wanted to remain anonymous for fear of reprisals.

They told the BBC they were humiliated, beaten, doused with cold water, and forced to kneel in uncomfortable positions for hours. They said they were detained for days before being released.

An expert in humanitarian law said the footage and the testimony from the medical staff interviewed by the BBC was "extremely concerning". He said some of the accounts provided to the BBC "very clearly cross over into the category of cruel and inhumane treatment".

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[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago (1 children)

New Nazis.

Treat them as such.

[–] ad_on_is@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you can't, that would be anti-semite

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Stop trying to further divide an issue. Helpful to literally no one.

Not all Jewish people are Israeli. What a dumb comment.

[–] ad_on_is@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Literally no one is blaming all Jewish people in this case.

The Israeli government are Nazis, the IDF are Nazis and everyone else (no matter their religion, race, etc.) who supports this genocide is a Nazi. Period!

The problem, in this special case, is, once you point a finger towards Israel (or any other Jew who supports that), they use anti-semitism as a shield, they - disrespectfully - use the Holocaust as a shield.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

What you don't understand is in the Holocaust Jews were thought of as animals, as vermin to be exterminated and they weren't.

But here Palestine is full of animals, of vermin and they need to be exterminated.

Total different.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

That use of the anti-semite slander do bat away criticism of Israel is not merelly disrespectful - it's full on racist because it assumes "all Jews are the same" (which is the only way for Israel = Jews) - which is exactly the kind of thinking the Nazis had (complete with the concept of "race traitor" for those who don't support their self-proclaimed leading of an entire etnic group, which is how we have cases of Holocaust Surviving Jews being slandered as anti-semite for comparing some of the actions of Israel with those of the Nazis)

These guys have been Nazis for a long time hence why they've been using for decades Propaganda techniques straight out of Goebbels' Little Book Of Tricks.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

It's sarcasm.

[–] livus@kbin.social 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Dr Lawrence Hill-Cawthorne, co-director of the Centre for International Law at the University of Bristol, said: "It goes against what has for a long time been a very fundamental idea in the law that applies in armed conflict, which is that hospitals and medical staff are protected. The fact that they treat nationals of the enemy side should not in any way undermine their protection," he said.

This is what is most disturbing. By attacking hospitals and medical staff they are going against one of the most important rules in modern warfare.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They also failed to present evidence for their reason of attacking the hospital: "To retrieve dead bodies of hostages".

Israel: No Evidence So Far That Hamas Held Hostages in Gaza's Nasser Hospital

So aside from killing people in a hospital for dead bodies which is israel saying "our dead people are worth more than alive Palestinians", those dead bodies were a lie to begin with.

[–] livus@kbin.social 29 points 8 months ago

Yes. A real pattern is emerging of attacking hospitals, sniping medics, bombing ambulances, beating up doctors, etc.

These are war crimes.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Always have been.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

I had a discussion on Reddit with a guy that insisted Geneva convention allows to treat, civilians, medics and journalists as targets if there's a suspicion there exists the possibility of a combat being disguised.

I called him a shill and got banned. There really is no hope for humanity.

[–] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israel won't stop until they murder all Palestinians in their supposed promised holy land.

Religious fanaticism is a terrible evil.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israel has already said they eventually want Jordan, Syria and even Turkey. The won't stop after Palestine.

Lebensraumers gotta Lebensraum.

[–] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Israel already occupies a part of Syria and they regularly bomb Lebanon.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Palestinian medical staff in Gaza have told the BBC they were blindfolded, detained, forced to strip and repeatedly beaten by Israeli troops after a raid at their hospital last month.

Dr Abu Sabha, the 26-year-old newly qualified doctor and volunteer medic at Nasser, described some elements of his treatment while in detention as torture, such as making detainees stand for hours without a break.

In addition, the International Committee of the Red Cross has confirmed to the BBC that it has received dozens of phone calls from people who say family members, including medics, who were at Nasser, are now missing.

The BBC confirmed that Dr Abu Sabha had an X-ray and sought treatment for a broken hand at a field hospital in Gaza after his detention, and that he arrived there in a cast with a Star of David drawn on it.

An internal UN report seen by the BBC has described widespread abuse of Palestinians who have been captured and interrogated at makeshift Israeli detention centres since the war began, which are similar to the accounts the medics gave.

Medics who remained were frightened of being shot if they defied orders not to leave the building, Dr Hatim Rabaa, who also worked at Nasser, told the BBC in a phone call on 22 February, as explosions sounded in the background.


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