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[-] RomanRoy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

We're sticking to the Fediverse as well so

[-] squidzorz@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Note that these are just quotes from the disastrous AMA he held last week, not new comments that have been made.

[-] realslef@fedia.io 13 points 1 year ago

"Hold on, dear investors! I'm confident that we can simply steer our ship straight through the middle of the massive iceberg!"

[-] AkumaFoxwell@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Ironically, had the titanic hit the iceberg straight on it probably would have survived. Swerving at the very last moment was what made it sink.

[-] realslef@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago

Be gone with your counterintuitive realism, getting in the way of an entertaining metaphor!

[-] DarkMatter_contract@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"There is no danger that Reddit will sink. The site is unsinkable and nothing but inconvenience will be suffered by the user bases."

[-] realslef@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago

" The site is unsinkable. We've simply decided to spend some time underwater while we work out some tech issues. "

[-] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 11 points 1 year ago

I'm not going back despite reddit sticking with API changes.

[-] timkmz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I wasnt going back anyway, but now it's an even easier decision!

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[-] docrobot@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago

They really want the fediverse to grow. I appreciate their dedication to the cause.

[-] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 year ago

They weathered the fatpeoplhate tantrum, I'm not really sure why anyone thinks a blackout would faze them.

That said I hope lemmy can grow into a mature social content aggregator.

[-] doctortofu@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

I just posted it elsewhere, but that's only the beginning. They also announced their intent to turn reddit into an even more ad-infested hellhole than it already is: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads

This is the future of reddit everyone - abandon all hope ye who clicketh here: https://www.redditinc.com/assets/images/site/image2.gif

[-] artistan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Unlike some of the 3P [third-party] apps, we are not profitable - Steve Huffman, Reddit CEO

Translation - we don't have control of the 3PA and they are getting in the way of moooore profit, so we want them gone.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm 90% certain that this whole thing is due to to Reddit's new marketing execs saying "we can't run ads on third party apps", and then deciding that third party apps need to pay up for their supposed "projected loss in ad revenue".

It's the piracy fallacy: "Somebody is using my service without giving ME profit, and so we're gonna go into a self-destructive tantrum". "Ignore the fact that nobody ever wanted to pay us for that anyways."

We don't need that kind of greed in control of our online communities, good riddance.

What a shitty job at astroturphing there.

"Won't someone think of the corporations! The evil third party apps (that we admitted were less than 10% of our userbase) are (somehow) bankrupting us! They're using so much API (even though our website uses at least 5x the API calls)

[Translation: There's 10% of the people we could shove ads in front of who are getting around it and I want to sell this sucker so I can buy another vacation property]

[-] sWiggn@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago

They're using so much API

I’m 100% convinced the reason they think 3PA API usage is unusually high per user is because all the high engagement users use 3PA, because their app actively repulses people from wanting to spend time on it. It seems like such a classic product misinterpretation of the stats, I’ve seen this from the inside as a developer before, ironically also at a company trying to IPO and failing spectacularly by completely misreading the room and their users

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[-] Lowbird@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dang, after reading that, somehow I'm even more glad I overwrote all my past comments and posts with a protest message. You do not get to monetize my speech down to keyword targetting, reddit!

The way that's written is so blatantly and shamelessly "all these people volunteer and provide an amazing service for free! :D look how much money we can make off this free labor without giving any of those volunteers a single cent, and while sabotaging the service!"

If you want to auto-overwrite your comments and posts, or just delete them, check out Power Delete Suite or Redact by June 30th, before the API change breaks these tools.

[-] Edo78@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago

Even if the fediverse didn't want to monetize on the userbase money are still needed to keep things running

[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

They're free to shape Reddit as they see fit. Although I mourn the loss of the past states of Reddit, I'm also free to extract myself from that ecosystem.

[-] Derproid@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

The sad thing is there's a right way to do everything they want but this ain't it. Spez is litterally digging a hole using the bricks he could be building with.

[-] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I’m done having ads shoved in my face constantly. Corporations ruin everything and this was just the push I needed to remove one more attack vector from my life.

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[-] MinekPo1@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

LMAO giving r/BuyItForLife as a good example of where to put ads.

[-] realslef@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago

I know, right? I hope BIFL will rip advertisers there a new one by suggesting alternatives.

[-] ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It is already infested with covert ads posted as content, anyway.

[-] starship_lizard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The bright side of all of this is finding out more about the Fediverse and how cool it is

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[-] followthewhiterabbit@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Chatted with the moderator teams for the subs I am a part of. Two of them agreed we'll go dark indefinitely, and we have joined in on that via ModCoord's post.

The largest with just under 1m users is still thinking about it, but I'm fighting for it.

We need to push them where it hurts: active users for their ads to be used on.

[-] artistan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Hopefully you don't have any rogue mods. Apprently r/adviceanimals got the head mod replced by someone that seems to be more inline with the admins-reddit. (u/legweed -> u/CedarWolf)

[-] AbyssalChord@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

If you really want to hit Reddit where it hurts: Shut down the subs forever, delete all posts and comments in said subs, put up a sticky post redirecting to Lemmy.

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[-] HisNoodlyServant@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Just saw on Reddit there are 300+ subs going dark indefinitely. That is what needs to happen. Sure Reddit could come in and find new mods but damn might end up being a decent amount of work/chaos. They should screw up their automods and delete the backup logs. Still probably wouldn't be that hard for an admin to rollback but still the more pain the better.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Who would they even find to moderate subs with substandard tools free of charge? Especially right on the heels of this fiasco. Maybe they'll put some bots in charge and just allow pretty much unfiltered moderation in those subreddits.

[-] Spzi@lemmy.click 8 points 1 year ago

I find this post at a moment when the show has already started (as can be seen on https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/ and https://reddark.untone.uk/ )

But the article is 3 days old. It seems many did not expect that much unity from subreddits going dark. 2.5 billion affected subscribers is quite something!

I'm still in hopes they change their mind in light of recent events. Don't think they will though.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

2.5 billion affected *subscriptions

Many are overlapping people's subscriptions of course.

[-] Derproid@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Probably 95% of that is overlapping since one person being subbed to 20 participating subs is counted 20 times, and since some default and massive subs are participating there must be a ton of overlap.

[-] milkytoast@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

and here i was, truly believing that they would reconsider. as of right now ~4000 of the planned 6600 subs have gone private, if that isn't enough then oh well

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[-] erich_zann@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Wayne, with Fediverse i'm totaly lucky!

[-] aaa@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

I'm looking forward to seeing what alternatives grow out of this.

[-] Ilikemoney@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, a 3 day, partial shutdown is less than 1% percent of their annual online time. The strike has got to last much longer imo

[-] animist@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

I am super happy about the subs going permanently dark

[-] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

What does reddit plan to do with all these communities going dark?

They should remain dark until changes are made. A strike with an end date is pointless.

[-] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Just goes to show that they were intending to kill 3PAs from the start.

[-] artistan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's the only logical conclusion. Wouldn't really make sense otherwise.

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