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Time and again, we see CEOs and similar executives make horrible decisions that massively damage a company both financially and in terms of reputation and the perpetrator is forced to resign, yet receives so much money as a going away present you'd think they're being rewarded for their fuck up. Why??

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[-] derf82@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Because the people that set compensation is the board of directors, and they are composed of other executives. They want to set the precedent for themselves.

[-] sadreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Correct, also execs have strong bargaining power and entire industry of advisors to advocate for their comp.

This is opposed to wage slaves who are atomized and forced to negotiate for themselves while most industries collude to fix their wage. Many industries share their salary data to third party aggregator who will in turn provide reports that enable companies to fix wages for specific professions/industries. This is illegal but as you might know, government does enforce rules against "legal people" only organics who are of "lower quality"

[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Also, they are all generally good friends, and want to make sure they keep the wealth "where it belongs"

[-] annegreen@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Not always, but often, making unpopular changes is precisely what the executive is being paid to do. Their job is to implement these changes, make sure that they are the one everyone gets upset with, and then take that anger with them when they leave.

[-] derelict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Usually because it was the result of part of the contract when they took the job. "Golden parachute if we ever fire you" is a reward for joining the company, it isn't decided when they are fired.

[-] IowaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Another similar question: why has executive pay skyrocketed when it's exactly opposing to (most) companies best interests? Also, you could merely hire a qualified candidate from within the company who is already familiar with how things work and pay them still six figures, but not millions or billions. It seems kind of insane that one person is "worth" that much to a board.

[-] sadreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When board is trying to corruption since guy is no good... Outside guy of their picking will do their bidding though

[-] awhtd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Essentially, there aren't a lot of candidates for roles like "CEO" at really large companies, so they want to attract the best candidate from a limited pool. Those people get to ask for whatever crazy thing they want if the board really wants them, and golden parachutes aren't illegal, so why not?

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Moral hazard, you say

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, there are plenty of candidates, just not ones they will consider. They only take rich people from the right background.

[-] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Are you saying that these CEOs have it in their contracts that they get a ridiculous amount of money if they fuck up enough to get fired? Doesn't that incentivize them to be reckless?

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No candidate for those jobs ever believes he will fuck up, nor that disastrous results are their direct responsibility. They always believe that the only reasons they'd be fired are political infighting or an investor/BoD revolt. Therefore, they want golden parachute clauses to protect them from such completely unjustified threats and criticism.

They're usually just separation clauses - i.e. whenever Joe Blow leaves his CEO position, he gets $X million. Like a lump-sum pension, which is more money that they don't have to call salary.

[-] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

To make them go away before doing more damage although their contract is still valid for some years. Same with a messie as tenant, you essentially bribe them to go before they damage the flat even more.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not only that, but that parachute comes with... well.... strings attached. (Sorry.)

Most CEOs have a high-level understanding of a companies long-term strategic plan, which would be very valuable to competitors. That payout is probably tied to an iron-clad NDA and non-compete clause. While non-compete clauses get a lot of bad press when peons are forced to sign them, for executives they make total sense, especially when directly tied to a payout, which can be clawed back if there is chicanery.

If an executive is bad enough, paying them to not work anywhere for a few years may be less risky than firing themand risking them blabbing to th3 competition.

[-] yarr@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Because there are also CEOs and similar executives that do NOT fuck up and make billions for their companies. Big risk, but big reward.

[-] DpwnShift@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Some would argue the workers make the companies all their money...

[-] yarr@lemmy.fmhy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

OK, if it's so easy and the workers create all the value, those workers are free to start their own competing company and become the billionaires.

[-] lynny@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Decorum of the rich and wealthy. You wouldn't understand, peasant. /s

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