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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 191 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks European Union ❤️

[–] thal3s@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The term Brussels effect was coined in 2012 by Professor Anu Bradford of Columbia Law School[1][2][3] and named after the similar California Effect that can be seen within the United States.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

The Brussels effect is the process of unilateral regulatory globalisation caused by the European Union de facto (but not necessarily de jure) externalising its laws outside its borders through market mechanisms.

The California effect is the shift of consumer, environmental and other regulations in the direction of political jurisdictions with stricter regulatory standards. The name is derived from the spread of some advanced environmental regulatory standards that were originally adopted by the U.S. state of California and eventually adopted in other states.

The Brussels/California effects are when the EU/California make a law that applies to the EU/California but for various reasons is followed globally/across the US

[–] sharkfucker420@sh.itjust.works 162 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can finally ask iPhone users for a charger. The world is healing

[–] valiente@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bet you they will make their cable charge non iPhones slower... adding some proprietary tech inside the charger, phone or cable which only allows fast charging on Official Apple Certified products etc.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EU regulations banned that idea from taking place thankfully

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

just imagine how dystopian our world would be if there was no EU

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[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I don’t know why people think this. USB-C is on every Apple product except iPhone and AirPods, and they were quite an early adopter of it, putting it on the MacBook in 2015. For comparison, the first Samsung phone with USB-C was the Note 7, 1.5 years later.

They’ve done nothing proprietary with it in all that time, and Apple products with USB-C have followed the spec quite closely (unlike offenders such as Nintendo). Outside of unsubstantiated rumours and FUD, there’s no reason to think they’ll do anything different.

[–] blindjezebel@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Genuinely curious, how did Nintendo change their specs for USB C? I still charge both my steam deck and switch off the charger my deck came with, but only the deck works with the usb-c to hdmi dongle I got. How does that work?

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There was quite a scandal years ago because the Switch could get fried by third-party docks.

I've heard different explanations and I'm not 100% sure what's true.

Here's a good FAQ on the topic. https://switchchargers.com/nintendo-switch-bricking-faq/

If anyone knows more about this, please share! I'm not sure if the Switch is indeed noncompliant or if that was just a rumor/hypothesis.

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, we knew they were going to have to make usb-c phones since the EU and the Saudis both are going to require it. And they’ve been making usb-c iPads for a while, I have a hundred of them at work

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Apple knew it too. Even without pressure from the EU’s upcoming laws around USBC, they knew we would all riot if they clung to Lightning. iPads, Macs, have all moved on.

Just. USBC all the things. Let me die in a world with one fucking cable. Please. Can we at least do that as a society?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (4 children)

C'mon, Apple doesn't give a shit if people riot over USB.

The ONLY reason this is happening is regulation. Apple would keep their shitty proprietary wire forever if they could. Compatibility with other hardware does not matter to a company with a fully closed ecosystem like Apple.

[–] naeemthm@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s really frustrating how stubborn and backward Apple has been with the iPhone. It’s 100% just so they can use a proprietary cable.

The crazy thing is they were on the consortium that helped develop USB-C and had one of the very first computers to even have the port! MacBook Pros were ALL USB-C at a time when there were close to zero accessory makers supporting the then brand new cable.

Anyway, extremely happy that lightning will finally die.

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

USB-C?!

On a phone?!

The Apple Magic🪄 has outdone itself this time. No one has ever seen anything like this before. This is the biggest technological innovation since Apple invented oled screens on phones in 2017.

Mind = blown

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Apple has always supported USB C. There is no war in Cupertino.

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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I've almost swapped to Apple a few times and now with Google and the DRM bit, even though I use Firefox it still grinds my gears.

Come September I may have my first iPhone.

From my Pixel 6 pro

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I have a 14 pro max and lack of usb c is probably the only thing I don’t like about the phone.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

My personal phone is a second hand iPhone XS, upgraded from a OnePlus One, and my work phone is a Pixel 6.

The XS is the best phone I’ve ever had, and I enjoy using it. Can’t say the same for the Pixel.

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[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only when they allow real sideloading without a server/Paid Apple Dev License

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[–] oryx@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't wait for them to sell USB-C as some groundbreaking new innovation of theirs!

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

iPhone 15 having USB-C is a great example of public pressure—and legislation, of course—being effective in enacting meaningful change.

⬜ Getting Apple to adopt RCS messaging is next.

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[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's like every family will get a raise since they don't have to buy $100 in cables every year

I'm still on the same USBC cable and a USBC car charger that I got with my pixel 1 (8 years ago)

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[–] Tagger@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm kind of surprised they didn't just drop a pretty altogether and rely on mag-safe and airdrop.

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[–] Graphine@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Incredible, it looks exactly like a USB-C port.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Lightning-C!

[–] JustAThought@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Start selling your charge cords now.

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (17 children)
[–] nix@merv.news 20 points 1 year ago

Google version or Verizons version or samsungs version or… lmfao

End to end encryption shouldve been enforced by RCS theres no point for apple to implement it when android hasnt even made it so anyone can make an rcs app with E2EE by default other than Google

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[–] Tygr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Need iPhone 16 or 17 with a waterproof replaceable battery so I can swap batteries while camping. Not needing to fuss with solar chargers would be awesome.

[–] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Just get a powerbank

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

The fact that they had to be legally forced to do this shows that users were never in their best interest.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Ok. Now I just need to replace my expensive headphones when those come out, and I’ll be free of lightening. I’m guess it won’t be for a while, as ok don’t like replacing expensive things with minor updates.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

toss

Don’t throw them out yet if they work flawlessly. Give them to someone you know or just leave them somewhere. Also, you might need your old iPhone for some reason and so you should probably keep one (possibly semi-broken) cable.

[–] InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Finally. Every time I go on a trip and pack a USB-C charger for my iPad, my laptop, my headphones, and have to bring an additional lightning one just for my phone drives me (slightly) crazy.

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