"We liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it" : the_dunk

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 82 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's kinda funny when Ukrainian fascists had promoted idiotic view that USSR=Russia and Ukraine was an occupied country instead of an equal part, and now meet consequences of this view.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 70 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, leave it to a Ukrainian flag username to erase the heroism of the Ukrainians in the Red Army in order to fellate the Americans

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 37 points 7 months ago

Spitting on the graves of antifascist heroes to honor not-Hitler is a liberal tradition

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 43 points 7 months ago

Liberals erased actual Ukrainian history with random fascists who committed massacres for a few years before dying.

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

their grandfathers would shoot them with a smile

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 79 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Really funny to see all the MAGA patriots going to bat for the Soviet Union in the replies

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 63 points 7 months ago

That’s only because Trump is doing it. If Biden did it they’ll call him a Stalinist

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

For sure, hilarious nonetheless

[-] huf@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago

bizarro horseshoe theory

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago

If it ends with some of them seeing through anticommunist propaganda, it would be very funny.

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No shot, they are doing it purely out of reflex because Trump said it

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago

It won't. They'll just use this as a "gotcha lib owned with facts and logick" and forget about it in 5 seconds.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 67 points 7 months ago

The consequences of Orange Man Bad Thought.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 53 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

TBF the “America single-handedly defeated the Nazis with the English as a goofy sidekick and Russia somewhere off to the side” brainworms predate Trump by decades.

[+] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 65 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

[deleted]

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 70 points 7 months ago

Voice of America lmao literal CIA source.

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

hahaha i caught that too

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

Certified as an unbiased source according to media bias fact check dot com.

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 47 points 7 months ago

'yeah the other dudes contributed i swear but the soviets got 76% of the germans so you can say they did some things'

[-] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

They only did 80% of the work!

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago

'yeah but i gave him a pencil so i basically did the whole project' <- a sentence that would rightly get your ass kicked

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

Real "group project but one person does 80% of the work, including the most difficult parts" vibes

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

With straight up US propaganda from VOA

load more comments (4 replies)

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 60 points 7 months ago

Guys give him a break. He’s Forbes’ Top Economic Thinker. It’s not his fault he’s stupid.

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 57 points 7 months ago

You use the flag of a country that openly celebrates a Nazi collaborator. Sit this one out and think about that gulag

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 47 points 7 months ago

stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 47 points 7 months ago

The United States beat Hitler with the help of Captain America, Namor the Sub-Mariner, the Human Torch and The Whizzer amerikkka-clap

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ukr flag emoji surprised-pika-messed-up

[-] axont@hexbear.net 42 points 7 months ago

The guy is doubling down by trying to say Ukraine and Belarus lost more combatants than Russia and also Germany wouldn't have been defeated without the US and UK.

Yeah except the Nazis were already retreating from the eastern front by the time D-Day happened. The US and UK were instrumental in getting the Nazis out of France and Italy, but the troops marching into Berlin were Soviets.

This guy is a PhD and works for Forbes? Quality intellectuals that America has crafted. We have our own self-replicating ghoul class who aren't even cynical even more, they legit believe all the ghoul propaganda.

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

the allies certainly helped with the defeat for sure but comintern did all the heavy lifting

load more comments (2 replies)

load more comments (1 replies)

[+] DPRK_Chopra@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago

[deleted]

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago

I can’t view this bird brain thread without an account so I’m just gonna assume that his points are nothing of importance

[+] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 50 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

[deleted]

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago

Including the Ukraine, which this man has in his pfp. smh this anti ukraine man is doing putins work for him smh.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It actually gets really ghoulish:

1/ First, the Soviet Union included, not only russia, but another 14 countries. Ukraine alone lost over 8 million people in WW2. As a percentage of population, Belorussia lost 25% and Ukraine 16% of its population, while russia only 12%.

I think he got those numbers by including civilian genocide victims.

2/ Second, just because the Soviet Union had the most causalities, doesn’t mean that they won the war. The reason Soviets had such large casualties is because they used people as cannon folder. Something russia is still doing today.

And doing more apologia for literal Nazi genocide of Slavs to own the ruskies

3/ Third, the Red Army was poorly equipped and heavily relied on the US support. Through the lendlease, the US has provided over 400,000 trucks, 14,000 airplanes, 13,000 tanks, and more.

Now list total tanks, and maybe who drove them.

If dumping military equipment was a magic spell to make the side with the richest sponsors win, then what's going on in Ukraine?

4/ Forth, Nazis were defeated only after the second front was open. Nazis had to fight against the US, UK, and all their allies.

So, it is plain stupid to attribute victory over Hitler to russia.

The front that never would have opened were it not for Molotov-Ribbentrop, which I'm sure this same prick will call Nazi collaboration (unlike Bandera, who was just doing what he had to in order to own the ruskies)

Such a fucking waste of space

load more comments (6 replies)

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

Our big wet comrade.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

Our Big Wet Comrade gave a speech about the bourgeoisie

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] buh@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago

Literally overheard 2 guys arguing about this in a parking lot just now lol

[+] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

[deleted]

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 30 points 7 months ago

I mean, the USSR did, which included a lot of Ukrainians such as Lyudmila Pavlichenko.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

Westerners and now recently modern Ukraine has been pushing hard to separate all Ukrainian history from the USSR aside from being "oppressed." So naturally the average burger will think USSR = Russia = Russia did everything good or bad in WWII.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] ColonelKataffy@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago

i remember a really good graph from a history book(?) showing public opinion every few years in response to the question "who is most responsible for the defeat of germany in ww2" and in 1945, it was like 80%+ of respondents saying USSR, but as the years go by, USSR's share shrinks, and the US' increases.

[-] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Holy Propagada. How can people forget such things.

[-] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

History is written by Hollywood

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

love that 911 made the US bar go even higher for a bit

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

God damn this country is so fucking stupid and propagandized. Automatons Assemble!

the_dunk_tank