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Summary: “Beyoncé is selling “listening only” tickets > for her Renaissance tour. The seats are behind the > > stage, so you can’t see any of the set or dancing, but > they only cost $157 compared to the ~$900 fans have been paying for regular US tickets.”

haha!

fuuuuuuuck that.

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[–] Duchess@yiffit.net 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the thing that offends me most is the price. i remember thinking £80 was a lot for a concert ticket in about 2010

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well the thing is, she really needs the money.

[–] JohnEdwa@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

She personally doesn't, but it is a rather simple case of supply and demand for everyone else involved - there are only so many that fit in the concert, as long you find enough people willing to pay $900 per ticket to sell them all, it doesn't make any financial sense to price them any lower. And if you do lower it while the market is still willing to pay significantly more, you quickly get swamped by scalpers grabbing the profit from you instead.
There is a Finnish saying that goes something like "He who asks is not the stupid one, the one who agrees to pay is".

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a common justification, but "if I don't do [bad thing], then someone else will do [bad thing] instead, but worse" feels like an excuse we've heard before.

After all, there's systems you could put in place to handle scalpers.

But Ticketmaster et al actually have them baked into the business plan, so have no intention of making change.

It's the same reason there's no politicians trying to bring rents down. They're all bloody landlords.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, no scalper is going to want to buy up expensive tickets.

The problem with supply/demand trends for such limited availability is that unless you price astronomically high, theres going to be more than enough people willing to throw their money at it, even if they have to sell a kidney to do it. Its more than just basic market forces, its social trends and hysteria from hype.

At a certain point you have to ask "are they doing it to provide a service, or just making as much money as they can, because that's all they really care about?" Because at a certain level, those two options are no longer compatible.

[–] JohnEdwa@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

They will try, but if the prices are already high then they won't be able to sell them nearly as easily or gain as much profit.
And even if we abolished scalping and it would bring the prices down a bit, it wouldn't actually solve the issue - like how nVidia noticed last gen that there were enough people that were willing to pay ridiculous amounts for the scalped GPUs, so now they increased the prices themselves to that level. It just made it happen faster than normal as they could gauge the markets easier.

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 2 points 1 year ago

It sucks but what you wrote is exactly correct.

We saw it with concert tickets before they started raising prices. We saw it with gpus in the last couple years, Nvidia had to raise prices because we were seeing scalpers and we were seeing shortages.

Sucks, but when you have something that there's a limited amount of and an unlimited number of dollars or what have you being printed, this is the final result.

(And I guess if we're being honest, if a lot of people like a certain artist, there's just going to be lots of demand for the thing.)

[–] LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I paid that in 2017 or 18 for Bruno Mars for infield.

[–] Duchess@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago

mine was my chemical romance, the seat wasn't great but i had a good time. point is, $150 for just audio is shocking.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So Beyonce wants the poors out of sight and out of mind while those who can afford her $900+ tickets can see her?

I never liked Beyonce, but now she can legitimately go fuck herself at this point.

[–] Moskus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, what? $900 to see Beyonce? How is that justified? Or even possible?

[–] LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some people will actually pay that.

[–] Moskus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, isn't that just... insane?

[–] monkeytennis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's the general public for you. It's why we're fucked.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is dumb might as well hear her songs on the radio for free. 154 dollars to "listen" to her concert. How greedy can she get?

[–] LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Well. Will be covered by "for people with impaired vision".

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Fuck Beyoncé. 900 bucks for a concert? To hear the shit she or her team produce? Fuck her.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Back in my day we called that being outside the venue.

You got me there :'D

[–] Granite@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven’t been to a concert in years. Prices are just too much, and then there’s this bullshit

[–] gothicdecadence@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pop and other giant artists are the ones with insane prices. Small bands are pretty reasonable still. I go see well known metal artists' concerts in LA for $20-55, usually around $30. More than it used to be sure, but it's a bit less than $900 lol

[–] Kalkaline@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

The music industry is so fucked. Nobody will pay for a local artist's concert or throw a tip in their jar, but we'll throw hundreds of dollars at this bullshit.

[–] sheridan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

They’re going to feel real dumb when they see me pull out my periscope backstage.

[–] Moohamin12@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This woman is one of the worst.

No idea how she has fans.

[–] lenathaw@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

her fans will defend this

[–] LordTekno@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no one I would pay that much money to see.

[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

That's the thing, you ain't going to even see her with those tickets.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 5 points 1 year ago

Any blind people here with opinions on the matter? Assuming it's an artist you'd like to hear, would you buy a cheaper ticket in back, or still want to be out front?

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If ALL of the concert is like that, then it would be avant garde "art". Maybe a social-statement about entertainment.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They won't even have something like a screen to see what's happening on stage?

[–] YoungPrinceAmmon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That would be extra $100 sir

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

That's just crazy

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Huffing roadie farts

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

A fool and his money...

These days there are way too many fools with way too much money.

[–] WhyIDie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

there's still more space for profit, why aren't they also selling tickets for under the stage?