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Ah yes, famously conservative media like One Piece, Ghost in the Shell, Gundam, Princess Mononoke, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, and Cowboy Bebop

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[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

conservative values like "reject the emperor's orders in order to save nature" and "care for the sick, have equality for women AND respect and find balance with nature"

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 35 points 8 months ago

It's really not about media literacy. The right doesn't care about truth or consistency, their interpretation of things is purely Id based, if they like a thing they just force a interpretation that aligns with their value, they likely know it's bullshit but whatever, makes their pee pee feel good. If a Nazi liked fucking Battleship Potemkin they'd mental gymnastics an interpretation that aligned with their beliefs. It doesn't matter how blatantly left you make the message in a piece of media, CHUDs will find a justification for liking it.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

It's accurate in a way. The only high quality conservative media is leftist media that conservatives don't understand.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago

This is just every well known anime

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Black Lagoon

Japanese pencil pusher gets hijacked by pirates

realizes his company doesn’t give a shit about his safety

defects to the pirates’ side

commits international crimes with a female Chinese mobster (and her big boobed catholic nun friend), a black soldier, and a Jewish hacker

conservative media

You can’t make Black Lagoon today because FVW (family value warriors) snowflakes would call it woke, pandering, and forced diversity.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

BL is conservative because it has a boat in it: sorry, I don’t make the rules

[–] BioWarfarePosadist@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

There's a whole sequence where the characters get gender swapped dream sequence...WOKE!

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I like Jojo, but in the rare instances where it really offers political messaging it's basically libertarian bullshit (see the end of Stone Ocean episode 27, where Araki takes a strong stand against motorcycle helmet laws on existential grounds for some reason)

The main thing I like about Jojo is its derangement, so this doesn't bother me too much

[–] LeninsWorldTour@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

don't forget what araki did in part 2 scared

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Was Lucy Q underage or do you mean the name of the African American kid?

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[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

every popular anime ever created since 1980 is conservative

This can't be anything more than bait to drive engagement.

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Japan is very conservative. I can see a case being made that the conservative themes shine though if that is all you are looking for.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

This is just the most popular anime of the last 30 years.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

I can't even understand how anyone could even misinterpret Princess Mononoke as conservative. It's not fucking subtle.

[–] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck is conservative about a show about an elf who outlives her friends and kinda has a midlife crisis about that before going on an adventure to get to know them and other people better

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago (14 children)

There's an episode where she attacks a demon on sight under the assumption that all members of the demon race are evil, and instead of it being a learning moment it's all like: "yeah, demons are all evil." And she's vindicated in her desire to kill all demons.

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[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ok I think I mostly get it, this person used exactly 5 criteria to make his picks:

#1 "I judge a book by its cover", this includes almost certainly not watching even a single episode.

Spy x Family, GnP, JoJo, Sailor Moon, Black lagoon, Tanya, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Gundam

#2 "I watched exactly 1 episode to be sure and yep this ain't woke"

Jormungand, Cowboy Bebop, Kill la Kill.

#3 "My 4chan friends like this thefore its probably ok I guess"

Bochi , Lucky Star, Azumanga, Konosuba, Princess Mononoke, One Piece, CSM, Ghost in the Shell

Also he probably heard those weebs refer to "Fate", FATE, FAAATTTEEEE so much that so he googled exactly the first result which is the original game art, good job lazy ass mfer.

#4 "This sounds anti-woke enough right? Sounds good to me" literaly same as cover but mfer read the title literally

Hellsing, Spy x Family, Angel Cop, Gunsmith Cat

#5 "My cousin was watching this 15 years ago, guess it ain't woke then it ain't woke now"

Bleach, DBZ, Monster, K-on, Eva,

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Monster is comically anticommunist, at least. Like, I think there might be one episode where they "both sides" things a little, and obviously it's also anti-Nazi, but the main plot hinges on completely absurd anticommunist brainworms about Soviets torturing children to, uh, make another Hitler or something? It's really hard to keep track of what anything means because the mangaka has the worst Mystery Box proclivity that I've seen in literally any medium.

Meanwhile I think Chainsaw man is at least mildly progressive, way to OOP's left, considering the allegory about nukes that implicates the Japanese and US governments in absolutely heinous crimes. idk, I guess you're right that Denji being porn-brained means channers would like it, but is that really why it's on here?

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

Angel Cop is explicitly anti communist. Like the protagonist is basically a vigilante serial killer who goes around killing communists lol. Lots of gore. Probably the only thing that makes sense on this list in addition to Halo.

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

AOT had so much potential to to good and then they take a blatantly fascist turn and justify genocide.

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

Alexandria Ocasio Tortez

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey, all of my favorite ani- oh

Not gonna blame them for princess mononononoke though; she's simply a forestcore wolfgrind sigma tradwife who's been greenpilled and is actively rejecting the woke metalist agenda and their soy anti-tree narrative.

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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

You're sure this isn't agitprop? Back in 2015 I was trying to spread a Reading with Hillary image that included Zinn, Loewen, and Thomas Frank on it mixed with a couple of Lib books.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

Sailor Moon makes sense. After all, It's just a bunch of cousins with the hots for each other.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, they included One Piece.

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah there’s no way this isn’t bait, using One Piece as an example of conservatism is like saying Helluva Boss is a prime piece of Christian values in media

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

obviously all anime is communist

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Halo, conservative? The entire overreaching narrative in the game's campaign is a critique on post 9/11 USA.

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

I’ve seen this exact format for “conservative core” stuff but it was somehow worse because they used Metal Gear Rising as an example, of ALL games. Complete wonder-who-thats-for moment

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

nah i'll give them halo, it glamorizes the child-kidnapping lady-goebbels that created the spartans (Dr. Halsey is perhaps internally conflicted but constantly proven to have made the 'necessary tough choices' to save the universe/humanity/etc., and i cannot stress enough how much the books and other media like halsey's journal in halo reach glamorizes being a child soldier to children), the covenant are basically a racist republican's idea of what Islam is, a fraudulent religious totalitarianism (the prophets know for a fact that the humans are the real Chosen Special Race, but lie to their people and say the Covenant is the Real Chosen Special Race) complete with suicide bombing slaves (grunts), and the Real Ancient Threat, the Flood, is an obvious allegory for Communism that the Christians (humans) and Muslims (aliens) have to come together to destroy - after, of course, the Muslims/Covenant overthrow their corrupt rulers (with the help of the human personification of the American Navy, Master Chief) to join the Christians/Humans.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

They literally and unironically quote liberty prime from fallout and think he's a cool tough American badass.

Here's a couple lines that didn't trip their trigger that maybe what theybwere consuming wasn't earnest.

"Democracy is non negotiable"

"American casualties: unacceptable. Overkill protocols authorized."

"Death is a preferable alternative to communism."

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Tbh I am always a little jealous of the ability these people have of seeing only what they want to see in media. Suddenly everything cool is on your side, what a treat!

Then I remind myself of how awful it would be to be ultimately closed off to art like that. Imagine the membrane between yourself and the minds of others being truly impermeable, like some kind of artistic agoraphobia. Horrible

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

They also might just be bullshitting for some of these.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

JoJo’s, that famous conservative work where an American president is a major villain of one part

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention it's clearly a show about being gay with your bros

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[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

Conservatives also regularly consider the american president a villain

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It is about the british aristocracy having such a superior bloodline they can defeat both the poor and minorities working together

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

Lol, they go off pure vibes and no self reflection, that's all this is.

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

Lucky Star is my favorite Thatcherite japanese children's cartoon.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The only right-wing ones are the girl group animes, for obvious reasons libertarian-approaching

Also Neon Genesis Evangelion seems to be watched by a lot of reactionaries (I've never seen it)

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[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shout out to Konosuba and Kiki which are conservative-core because money is a part of the narrative

One Piece is, of course, funny

DBZ, and the other 2 of the big 3 are on there but no Naruto/Boruto and it makes me wonder what Naruto did to upset them.

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[–] WaterBear@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shaming people without internal dialogue is ableism.

Shaming conservatives is good.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Is not having an internal dialog a disability?

Also never understood the concept of someone not having an internal dialog, what's the difference between an "internal dialog" and, like, regular imagination? Pretty sure all humans have an imagination. I always suspected people who say they don't have an internal dialog just don't understand what an internal dialog is and assumed it has to be straight up like Disco Elysium skills talking to you.

Idk though I'm not a neurologist.

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[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

I don't think this is meant to be taken seriously.

With Fate/Stay Night I don't see how you could interpret any political ideology into it tbh

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

These are a lot of good anime wtf

[–] 11092001@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

At first glance, only Monster makes sense. It is basically what if Charles Manson was a soviet thing with European characteristics. Although, it been awhile since I watch and read it.

Gundam makes sense if you're pro federation/cop and take in face value in the movie(not in the pic) Amuro when he talks shit about revolutionaries doing nothing, but literally on the thing that can change the tractory of history and stops it.

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[–] vertexarray@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Do you think internal dialogue is necessary for introspective thought

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