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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 196 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I must admit, "Linux becomes the refuge of luddites" was never on any bingo card I could have conceived of for 202X.

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 95 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Huh? Isn't this about Microsoft changing out a button with a well established use, in order to take advantage of muscle memory and the unobservant?

Don't think it's much to do with people opposing technological advancement, but rather with opposing another company wanting to making a fool of them.

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[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago (26 children)

The Luddites of Linux are one's desperately trying to convince people that Xorg is perfectly flawless and that Wayland is vaporware.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

A luddite should ideally not involve in Display Server wars

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

If Linux Luddites could TELNET into Lemmy, they would be very angry with you!

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[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 157 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That's what made me refuse to use the Reddit official app before their API garbage. Every update was a gamble as to whether they'd try to make me spend money through muscle memory.

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[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 138 points 10 months ago (29 children)

I've been using Linux since Ubuntu was in the single digits. Looks like windows entering the double digits is finally the end. I thought win10 would be able to stay relatively unmolested, but nope, copilot button and bullshit right there in the bar. Why can't you just leave us the fuck alone. Your driving everyone away who doesn't have a professional obligation to use your OS. I'll still have to keep a old win10 boot drive that never connects to a network so I can play games and use CAD that Linux can't. As a KDE fanboi they've added pretty much everything I've always wished for and plasma 6 is launching.

Now is my time. Fuck you Microsoft. I won't miss you.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago (2 children)

10+ years with Linux as my daily driver (yeah I'm old). When my os updates, it's almost always with some feature that's pretty neat.

Nowadays the steamdeck or some combo of Linux with steam can play my games, do my work, and I actively make other people's lives better when I contribute.

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[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 125 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I noticed this bullshit a few days ago on my Win 11 desktop! I found if you go check the settings of the start bar, you can hide the copilot icon in the lower right, and then there's a check box to enable the lower right hand corner to work as show desktop again. The functionality can be restore to exactly as it was, but what the hell were they thinking.

Enshitification, plain and simple.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I genuinely do not get the hype of integrating LLMs fucking everywhere. There are places it makes sense, like word processors and email clients. Then there are places it doesn't make sense, like as an aside in my desktop environment. No one's going to use it. It's Cortana all over again.

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 108 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

Switch to Linux!

As a Linux user myself, let me tell you that telling people what they should/must do this is how you make people plainly ignore you and think you're just an annoying person.

People will keep using what works for them, be it Windows/Linux/MacOS even if with minor inconveniences. Same goes for browsers/services/etc...

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 42 points 10 months ago (24 children)

"Microsoft continually makes their OS worse, but every time they do, Linux users come into the comment section telling me I should switch, so I'm not going to."

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 100 points 10 months ago (30 children)

Wow, Microsoft are always so innovative! I never thought that the Win11 taskbar could get any shittier, but somehow they managed it. It's great to see those thousands of engineers being put to good use.

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[–] Breve@pawb.social 94 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Everyone: Don't say anything sensitive or personal to an AI because it could end up in training data!

Microsoft: We're making it easier to feed everything you do on your computer to an AI from notepad to your desktop!

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[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.social 80 points 10 months ago (21 children)

just switched to Linux for the first time this week!

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (21 children)

I'll happily help you if needed. Hmu.

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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 10 months ago (16 children)

... You guys might shit on it, but that's incredibly smart on their part. Ten years or more of that button being there and now suddenly something else replaces it, just imagine the amount of people accidentally hitting the button and being introduced to copilot. This was a very deliberate change.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago

It's Smart as in, MLM scheme smart. Not honorable, just smart. Like a thief that is clever about not leaving fingerprints.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 32 points 10 months ago

That's exactly why we shit on it

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[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (64 children)

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people shitting... on Linux.

Linux is not even the one doing anything wrong but people gotta rag on whoever recommends it as an alternative. This is getting more annoying than however annoying they say Linux users are.

edit: Just to make clear because some folks aren't getting it, this is not an invitation to argue about how you feel about Linux and Linux users. I. don't. fucking. care. I don't even use Linux. Take it to someone who cares.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 74 points 10 months ago (84 children)
[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

tbf I get it. Sometimes you just want to be mad.

But like, it's Microsoft's fault.

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[–] Jerkingass@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago (21 children)

Windows Key+D

Press it again to restore all apps to foreground.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.social 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (17 children)

You can still re-enable it in the taskbar settings. Personally I like asking an AI to do stuff, so I like the Copilot icon in my taskbar, BUT NOT ON THE FREAKING BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER GODDAMMIT THAT'S FOR LIKE NOTIFICATIONS
AND NOW NOTIFICATIONS GO OVER COPILOT BUT NOT QUICK SETTINGS FOR SOME REASON AND IF YOU BRING UP QUICK SETTINGS IT SHIFTS TO THE LEFT AND HIDES NOTIFICATIONS??
at least I won't accidentally hide my desktop while clicking copilot in a place where it shouldn't have been
except oh no signing in to unlock copilot doesn't even fucking work

time to grind on my giant arch migration checklist and hunt for a good foobar2000 alternative which i'll likely never finish

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[–] learningduck@programming.dev 55 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just press windows+d bro.

I forgot that the button exists.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Win+d also redirects to copilot

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope that's a joke or else I'm gonna be so mad

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Nah, obviously you launch Copilot with Ctrl+C.

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[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (5 children)

They're signaling that you don't need a desktop anymore, only chat bot. Your device will be a kiosk where you ask Microsoft for favours.

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[–] Defaced@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Linux exists people, without copilot using your information for training data and if you game, has Valve releasing updates like crazy for proton making it easier and easier to use Linux for gaming. The only thing I use Windows for is GeForce now as the windows and Mac apps are the only way for me to play 1440p 120fps with their service.

Good beginner distros: pop_os, Ubuntu, Linux mint, Nobara or fedora, Garuda, Manjaro, solus, zorin. The possibilities are really endless. Just take your pick, make a bootable USB and try it out.

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[–] Kawi@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm so glad I switched to linux

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 42 points 10 months ago

Typical capitalist race to the bottom to appease investors with short term decision making

[–] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (20 children)

Linux. You'll be glad you did.

Free. Easy to install. Never gets viruses. Never crashes. Rock solid.

Runs good on old machines. Runs like lightning on new machines.

I've installed it for 3 old ladies (3 separate installs). They like its simplicity and low-bullshit.

I personally use Debian with a Mate desktop.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Im so glad i moved away from windows ages ago.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 10 months ago (10 children)

The last 10 years if Windows have been so agressively anti-user that I can't comprehend anyone chooses Windows unless they need it for work.

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (14 children)
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[–] Soggytoast@lemm.ee 31 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Windows 11 offers nothing better than Windows 10, but there's a few key things that don't work as good/bugged on win11 for me. Should have not updated I think

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Clippy never really went away, he's just been evolving this whole time into something more and more annoying with each new iteration.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 27 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I guess they figured out where people clicked a lot and put the button there?

Looking forward to the Google search trends for "disable copilot"

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