Add the Carroll verdict and we are North of $440 million in about 3 weeks.
Edit: Also need to calculate statutory interest on top of this. Appeal bond is going to be brutal.
this post was submitted on 16 Feb 2024
154 points (100.0% liked)
Politics
10178 readers
145 users here now
In-depth political discussion from around the world; if it's a political happening, you can post it here.
Guidelines for submissions:
- Where possible, post the original source of information.
- If there is a paywall, you can use alternative sources or provide an archive.today, 12ft.io, etc. link in the body.
- Do not editorialize titles. Preserve the original title when possible; edits for clarity are fine.
- Do not post ragebait or shock stories. These will be removed.
- Do not post tabloid or blogspam stories. These will be removed.
- Social media should be a source of last resort.
These guidelines will be enforced on a know-it-when-I-see-it basis.
Subcommunities on Beehaw:
This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Oh, shoot. I thought this was the Carroll verdict (or rather, the appeal to it). Getting hard to keep track lol.
I understand that's at 9%
And the billion fox news paid, which they're salty about so probably won't help Trump as much anymore.
The foundations are collapsing and surely he's losing followers now
Iowa republican caucus voters were polled and 30% said they wouldn’t vote for trump if he is convicted. Of course, the election is months away, so too many of them will surely backslide, but still. It was a higher percentage in New Hampshire, too.
Good.
Unfortunately, Trumpers will claim this is political prosecution or whatever though, or as per normal, find some made-up reason why the opposing side should have been disqualified (which will silently be forgotten as they find a new one).
I'm not in the US, but we also have a lot of dodgy rich people who need to get busted here in Australia too, so it needs to be normalised. I used to do installs in high end homes, and there are a lot of rich people who everyone in the industry recognises as dodgy, but simply haven't been prosecuted.
Unrelated, all of their anti-trans BS and such is spilling over here in Australia, so we REALLY need to stop normalizing nonsense like that. It's crazy how the US Republican party has managed to revitalize the anti-vax movement (leading to lots of deaths) and bigotry again.
That's true but it literally doesn't matter what you do the Trumpists will cry foul regardless and facts and reason don't apply to them. I'm just glad the US still has people in positions of power that are willing to go against Trump and actually follow their rule of law. I'm also not American, but as a Canadian I feel dangerously close to what goes on just south of the border and we have our own cadre of ultra right-wingers who are trying to upset Canadian ways in the model of what Trump does. So I'm glad there are judgements against him when warranted even if he'll never pay up and even if the amount he's penalized is a pittance to what he should be penalized and even if his followers cry about it.
Trumpism is a cult. Plain and simple. This is cult behavior.
I realize that's very dismissive, but in this case I think that's a good thing. You could spend years debunking their every claim, anti-fact, and bad faith argument--and there's a time and a place for those discussions--but there's no need to burden your mind with the mountain of their nonsense. You don't have to read the whole Time Cube page to determine that its author isn't worth listening to for astrophysical insights.
I actually think as a plus, that Biden should actually advertise the Gofundme. It's a good way to generate funds for New York and E Jean Carroll (and Trumpers are willing to contribute to those)
my condolences to the rnc operating budget
Read it last night. What I think is notable (besides the awesome-in-the-original-sense sum of money) is that Judge Engoron has retracted his previous order to lump-dissolve the Trump businesses. Because the Trump entities are going to be under supervision by not one, but two independent monitors, Engoron has decided to decide those on a case-by-case basis. Given how widespread the fraud in the Trump ecosystem appears to be, I expect this judgment to be the gift that keeps on giving.
In any case, massive props to Engoron for a) taking this important step into the societal dark, and b) keeping a cool head in the face of the defense's shenanigans.
They know he won't pay, but banning his business is the awwwww part.
Ps. I don't hold my breath.
Trump will never be able to pay it off, but Jared's Saudi buddies can.
Call me when he’s run out of appeals. Still though, it feels good for his bullshit to catch up a bit.
I'm looking forward to his two super pacs running out of money and potentially him having the RNC's finances to bankrupt in time for the general election.
🤖 I'm a bot that provides automatic summaries for articles:
Click here to see the summary
Judge Arthur Engoron issued his decision after a 2½-month trial that saw the Republican presidential front-runner bristling under oath that he was the victim of a rigged legal system.
Engoron concluded that Trump and his co-defendants “failed to accept responsibility” for their actions and that expert witnesses who testified for the defense “simply denied reality.”
The stiff penalty was a victory for New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat, who sued Trump over what she said was not just harmless bragging but years of deceptive practices as he built the multinational collection of skyscrapers, golf courses and other properties that catapulted him to wealth, fame and the White House.
Trump, one of 40 witnesses to testify at the trial, said his financial statements actually understated his net worth and that banks did their own research and were happy with his business.
He has been indicted four times in the last year — accused in Georgia and Washington, D.C., of plotting to overturn his 2020 election loss to Democrat Joe Biden, in Florida of hoarding classified documents, and in Manhattan of falsifying business records related to hush money paid to porn actor Stormy Daniels on his behalf.
On Jan. 26, a jury ordered Trump to pay $83.3 million to writer E. Jean Carroll for defaming her after she accused him in 2019 of sexually assaulting her in a Manhattan department store in the 1990s.
Saved 79% of original text.
There was a point I was convinced he would never be charged for anything. It's not enough, but it's still much better than the worst case scenario, so I'll take it.