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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

It's like Apple are speedrunning the VR industry experience.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Buying to return it after getting a good feel of the latest tech is a nice move if you have the money.

[–] tahoe@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably awful for the planet in most situations though. It’s unsure what they’ll do with the products, especially when they’re not available refurbished

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros

Why can't they sell them refurbished?

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They can, Apple just doesn't

[–] MelodiousFunk@startrek.website 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apple sells refurbs. The headset hasn't even been out two weeks yet. Give it time.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

It's a sham more than a real program. They only refurbish current and last generation devices while recycling older ones. It's anti-Apple brand to sell older gen stuff.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Hell, it can be a nice move if you have the credit limit.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All Apple did was make me interested in the Quest 3

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I agree. I don't have any qualifiers for that comment. It's an issue.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If they halve the price and weight and I'd be very interested in one. The processing power should have been in the battery pack, and the outward facing screen seems absolutely worthless.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They had the tech to make it a great product but fell on their face with gimmicks and poor software support to actually make it succeed.

I don't think the processing needed to be in the battery pack, the weight savings would have been minimal compared to removing the second screen and it would have added more thermal management concerns.

They really needed halo apps to make it worth keeping, at least native Netflix.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But without that extra screen, you wouldn't get those creepy digital eyes that apparently don't work very well if you have dark skin!

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Are you saying the luxury product company with the white aesthetic isn't designing or testing their products knowing that some of their customers might have dark skin? No way.

[–] sleep_deprived@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I don't think the weight itself is really the issue - the Vision Pro is significantly lighter than the Valve Index, but significantly less comfortable from the accounts I've heard. I bet it's more the weight distribution and horrible strap design that's making it so uncomfortable. I'd also add that the walled garden kills just about every use case I'd have for it.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 5 points 10 months ago

Next year when they release the not pro model for $1000 that's essentially an iPhone in one of those cardboard VR headsets, people are going to be all over it...

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Why is all the hardware in the front though? Can't they make something that you hang over your shoulders with a cable running to the now much lighter headset?

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Comfort is among the most cited reasons for returns. People have said the headset gives them headaches and triggers motion sickness. The weight of the device, and the fact that most of it is front-loaded, has been another complaint.

Well yeah, the refresh rate of the screens is only 90Hz, and you're viewing the outside world through a bunch of cameras while using it. For the AR functionality to work seamlessly and avoid motion sickness/headaches, the refresh rate of the screens needs to be much higher, probably around 220-240Hz. And the cameras need to be a lot better, especially in low light situations. The resolution of the Vision Pro is very good though, so that's not the issue here.