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Moscow has announced an “anti-terrorist operation” as the mercenary group says it’s engaging in battles with the regular Russian military.

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[–] SmokumJoe@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (8 children)

This is my first comment on the first post I opened up since finding and immigrating a few minutes ago.

Men who send other men to die for shits and giggles deserve to experience every death firsthand themselves, over and over again

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[–] afraid_of_zombies2@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Thoughts and prayers

;)

[–] tldrbot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

tl;dr:

Vladimir Putin made an extraordinary address to the nation on Saturday morning admitting that he was facing an armed insurrection led by former confidante Yevgeny Prigozhin and his Wagner mercenaries. After months of feuding between the mercenary boss and Russia's Defense Ministry, things came to a head Friday when Prigozhin accused the Russian military of ordering a rocket strike on a camp full of his men, and vowed merciless revenge. Within hours, the Prosecutor General's Office announced charges against Prigozhin for attempting to incite an armed rebellion, a crime that carries a maximum penalty of 20 years behind bars. Prigozhin showed no sign of backing down, instead releasing a series of audio messages via his press service late Friday in which he accused the Defense Ministry of deploying fighter jets to shoot at Wagner vehicles in the Rostov region and of firing at civilians on Russian territory. While the drama between Moscow and Prigozhin played out, Ukrainian officials announced Friday their forces had retaken eight villages from Russian control as part of their first counteroffensive.


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[–] jerome@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Update: Wagner is claiming control of a Military HQ and an airfield in Rostov, Russia. Demanding an audience with the top 2 Russian military heads. He demands that the two leaders BE BROUGHT TO HIM or he will continue to hold the HQ.... It may be a while before we get another update.

[–] sorenant@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pizza Hut in Arlington is going to be busy the next couple of days.

[–] kartonrealista@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate? Is this a reference of sorts?

[–] sorenant@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

The Pentagon is located in Arlington, it's a meme that when some hot shit happens and they have to do overtime they will order a lot of pizza from nearby stores.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

We all know how this is gonna end. Prigozhin marches his 25,000 troops into Moscow, faces stiff resistance and is either killed in combat or captured.

Putin then goes full Vlad the Impaler and parades his corpse skewered on a pike for all of Russia to see, as a stark reminder of what happens to rebels.

This is a substantial setback for the Russian war effort, but I really cannot see Prigozhin overthrowing Putin. Best thing he could have done was defect to the West instead of try to depose the figurehead.

He is pissing on a hornet's nest.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Isn’t ~97% of Russian military engaged in Ukraine? Where would this “stiff resistance” come from? Wagner is already 1/2 way to Moscow!

[–] TempleSquare@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Either Putin or Prigozhin end up dead.

Maybe we'll get lucky and somehow finish each other off.

[–] Flipht@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ultimately, it doesn't matter who wins or loses this battle. Either way, Ukraine wins.

Wagner was the only Russian force I regularly saw succeeding in the headlines. Without them bolstering the Russian military and in fact detracting from and wasting the resources of the Russian military, the whole house of cards is going to start falling.

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[–] el_cordoba@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

After seeing how much of a coward Putin is I have a hard time seeing him be anything more than an opportunist who takes easy cheap shots. He is out if his league now.

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[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Well I think Putin just fled Moscow...

[–] marsokod@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ok, I have a huge and unlikely bingo card: what if Lukashenko is now allied with Prigozhin and is using that to take control of Russia and finally complete his dream of ruling the USSR again?

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a fun theory. He can finally be colonel.

[–] marsokod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there a source for this somewhere? I'm seeing reports that he fled to Turkey. Trying to figure out if this is the darkest timeline or the brightest..

(No shade to you, thanks for sharing it. Just wanna see the news orgs pick up on it)

[–] marsokod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sorry I missed your comment. By now you may have seen more news about the situation.

But don't ask me how this makes sense, I am as lost as you on what happened today. One could hope that there is a hidden logic and we will learn more about this in history lessons, but this being the result of pure chaos is a completely valid option at this point.

[–] JavaTea@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

AFAIK Lukashenko's airplane has travelled to Turkey in the last couple of hours.

[–] saucyloggins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let’s release a bunch of people we imprisoned and then send them to……. a mercenary group? I’m sure they’ll be veeeery loyal.

If they’re able to pick up Russian soldiers as they go things could steam roll quickly. Otherwise it will at least be a massive distraction for Russia while Ukraine recovers territory.

[–] BudZombie@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn the rest of the world been so afraid to do this and Wagner just swooped on in and took it... lmao

[–] BathtubJoe@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

I mean, a state actor making an offensive move on Russia is a very different thing than a mercenary group doing the same. I’m not sure that “afraid” is the word I would use here.

[–] TheFrirish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

the rebellion is already over.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What are the odds Putin is still around in one month? This shit is fucking nuts.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would say high. It appears Progozian is saying this is all Shoigu's fault and Putin needs to replace him with Progozian. I imagine they'll use this as an excuse to retreat from Ukraine and sacrifice Shoigu as the reason for the invasion.

Honestly, if this gives the Ukrainian's their land back and peace I'm all for it. I care less about the evil of the world getting their cumuppance rather than the innocent getting to live happily.

[–] DudePluto@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did you spell comeuppance like that on purpose?

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope, I'm just incompetent.

[–] _finger_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

*incumpetent

[–] skele_tron@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Real MGS4-like moment there

[–] RFBurns@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

"Never mind..."

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don‘t think this guy in charge of Russia or their army would be any good either, but I hope he could at least make some more Russians question the current course.

[–] golamas1999@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So Putin has been paying Nazis to fight Nazis and some of those Nazis are planing a coup against him.

The West has also been supporting Nazis to fight Nazis.

And now in America Nazis are coming out again and are doing Nazi things.

As someone who lives in Illinois “I hate Illinois Nazis.”

[–] mantisteabaggin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

As someone who lives in Illinois “I hate Illinois Nazis.”

As someone who lives on the world, “I hate nazis.”

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Who is rasputin in this new scenario? I would think he is at least 25k IG followers

[–] steebo_jack@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm really surprised this guy hasn't swan dived out of a tall building yet...

[–] The_one_and_only@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

There are literally tens of thousands of soldiers to prevent him from accidentally falling out of the window.

[–] moosh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] WoundedMachine@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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