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    Kid told me that he just watched "some crazy old movie" about how a kid hacked into NORAD.

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    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 91 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    My 10 year old niece asked me what my RJ45 wall socket was while I was fixing her mom's computer.

    "It's for old telephones"

    She then asked me if I had an adapter for it so she could charge her phone.

    I almost died.

    [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 79 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Rj11/12 are for telephones, rj45 is for ethernet

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 32 points 9 months ago

    Oops, yes. Thats what I meant. STILL died.

    [–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago
    [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Johanno@feddit.de 6 points 9 months ago

    Won't work anymore. Our phone line is completely replaced with fiber. On the other hand i can't remember any unwarned outages in the last 20 years.

    [–] palordrolap@kbin.social 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Technically, if it's a land line port and still connected to an exchange that hasn't gone completely VoIP (that's a thing where I am), it might actually be possible to build a charger module that plugs into that port.

    Would it be worth it, though? ... No.

    Low power is supplied over old land-lines for the purposes of making telephones ring and powering other handset bits and pieces, within reason of course. Using it for anything else is undoubtedly illegal as phone lines aren't rated for huge power draws.

    (If you're interested, there are videos online where people have hooked up LED lamps etc.)

    But, let's say that module existed and was legal. Your niece still wouldn't be happy with it.

    To avoid burning out to the telephone line, any such device would have to be a r e a l l y s l o w trickle charge.

    I wouldn't even think about it for emergency power outages. A battery backup is a better option.

    [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Would it make you feel better that literally today I had to troubleshoot a RS-232 at work?

    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    RS232 is functionally immortal. Its market share in the niches it fills has never -- and I'd argue will never -- go away, or even shrink all that much. It's like those lobsters that don't age at all but if we splice the genes that do that into humans it gives us cancer.

    [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

    Comparing RS232 to cancer is a good analogy.

    I hate it but as you said it has its niche and there really aren't better options for what it does. If someone else has a means to wire up +100 sensors to one system that doesn't involve enough wiring to encircle an entire city or an unbelievable reliable means to do M2M between two machines that's secure simply because everyone who knows how to tap it has a high paying job I am all ears.

    [–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 7 points 9 months ago

    Could work in theory. Back then there it had sonething like 40 volts going through the line and you needed some decent power to make the bell in the phone ring.

    But I don't know if that's still in use these days.

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    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

    I swear my kid thinks we were all hand starting our Ford Model-Ts before 2012 (his birthday).

    Kinda like I perceive the 70s I guess. The dark ages, the before time before I existed.

    [–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 9 months ago (4 children)
    [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    "Time is running out!! 🤣" - Brought to you by the 80s babies gang.

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    [–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago

    It's not your fault pal. hugs

    [–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

    That’s not old you’re good.

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    [–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

    Completely off topic to the thread, but you just reminded me of a time I snuck onto a movie set and got to actually do that. I posed as a driver for the car company and got to start/drive one of those bad boys with the hand crank. Inside was all switches too which was wild. The most uncomfortable ride of my life.

    [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

    My kids are convinced that we didn't have cars when I was a kid. I was explaining to them what the before GPS times were like.

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    [–] unlawfulbooger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 9 months ago (3 children)
    [–] yesman@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    The kid was blown away by the modem. For those who don't know it's a cradle type dial up modem where you place the (land line) phone on a receiver instead of plugging the computer into the cat4. You could get up to 150 bits per second on one of those bad boys.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_coupler

    [–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    That's about the speed you can read text...it's why pre-internet sites like BBSes weren't all flashy, you had to keep it loadable. Actual downloads you would plan overnight and hope you didn't lose connection. The first big breakthrough was resumable downloading where you left off. Huge.

    [–] 1984@lemmy.today 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I have memories of watching pictures back then being transfered by modem. It was one pixel row at a time, being rendered at approximately reading speed. So as a teenager being into hot celebrity girls, I got to watch the image being unveiled during about 3 minutes of watching those pixels appear left to right, one pixel row at a time.

    It was cool :)

    [–] evanuggetpi@lemmy.nz 6 points 9 months ago

    pamela_anderson_beach.jpg

    Didn't even last until it had fully loaded.

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    You misspelled "RJ11"

    [–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

    Had a hayes 300 ftw

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    [–] ggwithgg@feddit.nl 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    There was a time computers had no text but instead had punch cards

    [–] sundray@lemmus.org 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    There was a time computers had no punch cards, but switches.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    There was a time when computers used to be African American

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago

    Founders of the information age. Some have called them "Hidden Figures".

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Figures

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    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    PFY: "Hey, computers used to be all text just like that with no graphics, did ya know?"

    BOFH: "No shit" uninstalls X/Wayland from PFY's computer remotely

    [–] kari0ca@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Ah memories from BOFH! I used to read that on the 90s

    [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Don’t know what the equivalent is today. But that one solidarity Commodore Pet, green screen glowing in the corner of the classroom, will always have a special 32kb space in my heart.

    [–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)
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    [–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

    And before that they was just paper and holes...

    [–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Terminals I played with had no screen just a dot matrix printer. My God, the sound...

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I only used one of those once, it was atrocious. People must have shed tears of joys when screens took over.

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    [–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What's a Grah pics? Sorry, I only use pen & paper.

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    [–] 0xDEADBEEF@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Ah, the way god intended. GUIs were a mistake lol

    [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 9 months ago

    Which console UI are you using for Lemmy?

    [–] tygerprints@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    It's true. There was a time when Computers were just green screens with DOS text. Those are the first computers I ever used and we thought they were amazing. I thought it was amazing when I could put Star Trek After Dark Screensavers on my Power Mac! We've come a long way.

    [–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Green? Everyone knows AMBER MONOCHROME is the one true color!

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    [–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I was taught Lotus 1-2-3 on MS-DOS in college. Do with that information what you will.

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    [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

    You young whipper snappers and your fancy DOS terminals.....10,000 years ago I sat at a teletype terminal and tried to learn to program in BASIC. Oregon Trail and Missile Attack are a whole 'nother experience when done by printed media only.

    I can still hear the sound of the teletype clacking.....

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