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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Aatube@kbin.social to c/technology@lemmy.world
 

Shipped in Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26052. https://www.tiraniddo.dev/2024/02/sudo-on-windows-quick-rundown.html claims it has a big security problem that makes the program accept calls to elevate from anywhere once first run

Edit:

  1. The security problem has been internally fixed and will be available in the next release
  2. It's not just an alias for 'runas'. It seems to be able to configurably block user input for sudo'd commands, retain the existing environment, ditch it and open a new window, and remember that you've sudo'd in the last minute or so.
  3. It brings up UAC instead of having you input the password
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[–] Tja@programming.dev 54 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This incident will be reported.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] jwt@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

"Would you like to buy some sudocrem?"

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] jerrythegenius@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] tostiman@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

remove for real, for real

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Wouldn’t work on powershell in which the options parser works very differently

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

In powershell you’d have to do -fo because there’s —filter

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

sudo stop redirect capturing my back button

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I fucking LOATHE their same page redirect every time I mistakenly click on a MS answers page

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's even worse because if you've found your way to MS answers you're clearly desperate because nothing came up on a real site. So you're already in a bad mood and then - BLAM - redirect!

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And then the answer is posted twice in a row from the the same expert and reads: "thank you for contacting Microsoft Answers. We are closing this thread as it's reached the maximum age of -21479632".

[–] Toes@ani.social 4 points 9 months ago

I hate how every recommended answer is some copy paste guide on how to reset the PC. If that is your go to fix for everything you're a garbage technician.

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago

Thankfully you can right click the "back" button and it'll give you a list of couple of last sites and you can just so it from there. It is still annoying though.

[–] Toes@ani.social 2 points 9 months ago

I've added ms answers to my ublock filter. The site is worthless.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Sudo already exists, is it okay to just name a different program by the same name?

Guess which one Bing search will try harder to return.

[–] Salzkrebs@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I hate searching for sway config stuff using DDG (which returns Bing results).

Chances are never zero that that there is an outdated MS product with the same name of what you're searching.

[–] squid_slime@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I feel this, I type swaywm instead now

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hold up. DDG returns Bing results? TIL. Is that true? How do we know? Do they state this, themselves?

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/

Most of our search result pages feature one or more Instant Answers. To deliver Instant Answers on specific topics, DuckDuckGo leverages many sources, including specialized sources like Sportradar and crowd-sourced sites like Wikipedia. We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results. Of course, we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing. Our focus is synthesizing all these sources to create a superior search experience.

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[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

They are already doing it for other commands. Eg curl.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 24 points 9 months ago

Welcome to 1980, Microsoft (or 1993 if you're feeling really generous).

[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Finally! The day I've been waiting for so long. Goodbye Linux, hello Windows!

- nobody ever

[–] brick@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In your mind, do you really think that is the intention here? Seems more like a convenience for people who use both Linux and Windows.

I have to use both so I welcome it.

[–] naticus@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Seriously. My home PC runs Linux primarily, but I sysadmin both Windows and Linux at work and this will be very convenient. Forgetting to run PowerShell as admin is always frustrating, especially when I have the commands and variables already established.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Install Linux already, get it over with. Windows has been and still is a sad joke, why pay for that crap?

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Sure, tell my corporate overlords to do that, on thousands of computers across the globe.

At home i can do what I want, at work I have to bow down.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Because business uses Windows services, which are, by far, the most common. And when collaborating and sharing files is essential this is a major deal breaker. I love *nix but it just wouldn’t work as well in the business world until there are wide spread services that replicate or do better than what Microsoft does with enterprise support and pricing in mind.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)
[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can get a legit Windows 11 key for like 5 bucks, no reason not to install it honestly. Even if only for dual booting, it can save you a lot of headaches.

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[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, so yea just a "better" version of runas. I can see it being a bit easier when you just need to do the one thing as admin, but overall just opening an admin windows is still going to be the best way.

I really think the security issues makes it not worth enabling.

[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yep. It's basically an alias for:

runas /user:administrator

If you want to open a new command line window with admin privs you can always do:

runas /user: administrator CMD.exe

Which is of course on Linux this would kinda be like running:

sudo su
[–] Aatube@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not just an alias. It seems to be able to configurably block user input for sudo'd commands, retain the existing environment, ditch it and open a new window, and remember that you've sudo'd in the last minute or so.

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[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

oh thank goodness! I have been waiting so long for this

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why wait? Linux has had sudo for over 25 years

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago

And sudo itself has existed for over 40 years

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[–] fuzzy_feeling@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

and i'm thinking about switching to doas.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

looks like shit thanks

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Tell me it has a better configuration format than sudo.

(I've ditched sudo for OpenBSD 'doas' across the board ever since it made its way into debian's repos)

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Soooo revolutionary and unique like Phone Link

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did they ask for permission first? :p

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[–] FrostKing@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Substitute user do", most commonly used on Linux to run your command as superuser (think admin mode on Windows)

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

That still sounds so weird, as opposed to the old “super user do”.

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