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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (2 children)

White Phosphorus?! At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within your kitchen?!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

localized entirely within your enemy's hospital?!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, i realized I could have gone in that direction after I posted.

I also considered

"A concrete reinforced tunnel?! At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within your enemies graveyard?!"

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I came to mine the salt of the downvotes.

Currently I have 5 salty bastards.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Make sure to fetch a good price for it.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Stonks have gone up. I now have 52 salty bastards.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I thought this was about Israel not jews

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The punch line targets an ethnicity rather than a government.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I didn't realize that referencing the official language of the state of Israel was targeting an ethnicity.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I'm just trying to let you know why this won't go over well with some people. I personally do not care, but I do want to see advocacies for peace well communicated so to not be misconstrued as something bigoted, since that would be a step backwards for us all.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

"Can I see it?"

"No."

[–] smotherlove@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

As soon as you blame the genocide on culture rather than authoritarianism, you have definitely stepped over the line from political speech to hate speech.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Suddenly the punchline feels uncomfortable!

Can you also see how people who aren’t hateful bigots would interpret the joke? Can’t think of an analogy (although “pardon my French” for swearing and “it’s just sparkling ___” come to mind).

I do see how the joke could be meant to be hateful. Really hope it wasn’t, and just a “you don’t understand [generic language you don’t speak but we do]” joke.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

The original line is "It's an Albany expression"

[–] smotherlove@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On the topic of hate speech, when it's thinly veiled and/or coded (which it so often is), it's sort of like direct communication between the bigot and the minority. How bystanders interpret and feel about a targeted message to a group they don't belong to is hardly relevant.

As a Jew, I feel no connection to the events in the middle east, yet I'm constantly made to feel responsible. At the very least, everyone expects me to loudly disavow a situation I don't understand. All I really know is that I don't feel safe in my city anymore.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

People are dumb. A Jew in NYC or Berlin has no to little influence on Israeli politics, and has no more responsibility nor imperative than all the rest of us for what’s happening right now

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

There exists an extremely vocal subgroup in the Jewish community that aggressively supports Israel and wants to call its every criticism discrimination of the whole Jewish population. Either this subgroup needs to be drowned out, as you find yourself having to do by constantly disavowing them, or forced out to show they do not represent the group. Otherwise those loud voices are winning, and it may be a small sub-sect but they are responsible by purposefully continually attempting to conflate those with interests in Israel, some of them even living in NYC and Berlin, dreaming of genocide with the Jewish Diaspora worldwide to evade criticism of copying techniques from the literal Nazi Party’s phase one of the Final Solution. Bibi might not say exterminate Palestinians publicly but Hitler never said to exterminate Jews either, it just sorta happened under his watch (seriously, find a source where Hitler directly ordered it and I will buy dinner). Him and his cohorts are the ones running around screaming they are Jewish and they are acting just and morally in their promised endless quest for blood, a regular Jewish person enjoying serenity becomes invisible in the backdrop. To someone barely paying attention (aka almost everyone) the crowd of Jewish people starts looking hateful and down right reprehensible to even acknowledge, all thanks to a few hateful people and the silence of others. It shouldn’t be anyone’s cross to bear, but to people who view silence a violence, not “cancelling” / disavowing them at every turn is essentially being complicit in genocide because you are “choosing” to allow this subversive group to exist within your larger group (Jewish people worldwide) and “choosing” to continue using the same identifiers as them (Religion).

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"I'm Jewish and I've never heard that."

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Isn’t the Hamas hq under the hospital?

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Honest question: why are commenters here saying “Hebrew” refers to an ethnicity rather than the language?

To my ears it sounds like an archaic or incorrect way to refer to a Jewish person or people, sort of like referring to Muslims as Arabs. But if I’m mistaken, or this is a new self-descriptor, I’d like to know.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think the majority of commenters here don't actually know that Hebrew is the official language of Israel and assume it is a reference to the Jewish people themselves. Others seem to be claiming that since OP chose to use a language instead of a location like in the original episode (Skinner claims it's a regional dialect, and when pressed on what dialect, he says, "upstate New York."), he's somehow being antisemitic because he's equating it to, "all Jews," instead of, "Isralis." That's of course nonsense; Israel is the only country to have Hebrew as an official language, and the vast majority of the world's Hebrew speakers live in Israel. In fact, Hebrew was basically a dead language until the Zionist movement revived it in the late 19th century. The vast majority of Jewish people outside of Israel would only speak Hebrew as part of prayers, much like Catholics would use Latin (at least until they ended Latin Mass in the 60s). The idea of, "Hebrew expression," being coded towards the larger Jewish population instead the one country in the world where this language is regularly spoken is just silly.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Remember that they have conquered the Al Shifa hospital two months ago and we still haven't seen one single piece of evidence of the "HAMAS COMMMAND CENTER" they were screaming about. Other than a half assed attempt at putting a camera through a hole to show what was a... hospital servicing tunnel.

[–] ShadowGlider@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That flag of Israel is missing the white stripes and it's really bothering me

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Tbf I think we are all missing them since they stopped touring.

[–] 100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'd do everything to see them live, a seven nation army couldn't hold me back

[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I think I'm learning a lot from this thread.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Image isn't loading for me

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Didn't know you were an antisemite PugJesus

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm Jewish and like this meme, want to call me an antisemite?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you know what sarcasm is?

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Do you know what text is??