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Boris Nadezhdin, 60, sparked queues all over Russia in January when supporters submitted signatures so he could be registered as an official candidate in the presidential election. On Wednesday, he handed in more than the 100,000 required signatures to the Central Election Commission, which is expected to rule next week on whether he will be allowed to stand.

Now his hopes of challenging the current president could be dashed by claims that the signatures are from deceased individuals.

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[–] zaphod@feddit.de 25 points 9 months ago (6 children)

But why would they? They're going to fake the election result anyway. Wouldn't it look better for propaganda reasons to have at least some opposing candidates?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Wouldn’t it look better for propaganda reasons to have at least some opposing candidates?

Yes, that's why propaganda talk shows there always have a guest with a somewhat critical tone. Obviously that one always loses the debate.

They saw how it ended in Belarus in 2020 and don't wanna repeat.

[–] MrMakabar@feddit.de 7 points 9 months ago

Belarus just had a popular position candidate for presidential elections. When the results were shown it ended up in huge protests in the country, which very well might have removed Lukashenka from power. The reason they did not was Putin sending his troops to crush it.

If you have something similar in Russia today, you have the army fighting in Ukraine, the economy is in a dumpster fire, Ukraine and the West are going to help the protestors and there is nobody to march in and crush the protests. In addition to that the number of different armed groups in Russia has increased a lot and chances are some are unhappy with Putin. Wagner marched on Moscow after all.

So best choice is to not have an election at all. However that chance is gone now. Calling it off would make Putin look like he knows he would loose. So he has to fake it and the best way to do it is to have no actual competitor, who could win besides him.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The thing about this is that despite how well Putin's iron fist is clenched around the neck of Russia, one fatal mistake and you'll see Moscow burn, oligarchs and their children murdered in their homes, ranks falling apart, etc.

People have their limits, and when reached, expect Molotov cocktails to be thrown around like confetti at a wedding.

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying they're affraid someone might release the real election results?

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I'm saying they have to maintain a veneer of authenticity, even if it's an open lie. At some point, when everything is apparent to everyone, people will just snap. That's literally what happened when the USSR was founded.

Putin may wax poetic about the USSR, but he knows what happens when those balaclavas come back on and when active terrorist insurrection groups start forming.

So he needs to pretend that votes count, because no matter how well he seized up the police, the military, even the criminal underworld, if even just β…“ of those groups start conspiring, it's likely to have a snowball effect.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because if you make it too obvious you’ll have the fourth Russian revolution in the last 120 years.

October revolution in 1905 to remove a lot of power from the czars, one in 1917 to completely remove the czars from government, another in 1917 to put the Bolsheviks in power and lead to the Soviet Union. Who knows what would happen were the current populace to overthrow Putins sham democracy

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who knows what would happen were the current populace to overthrow Putins sham democracy

Zombie Thatcher and Reagan take over Russia.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We should pitch their corpses into that Siberian hell pit that gets brought up occasionally

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I dunno, I'd be worried that would be the thing that reanimated them...

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

No, presidential elections in Russia traditionally follows Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs plot where The Great Liderβ„’ should look much better, much saner and much younger than everyone else.

[–] onion@feddit.de 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what would happen if the 100 000 deceased individuals were to show up in person at the central election comission

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Their status could be swiftly adjusted?

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From dead on paper to just dead?

[–] numbermess@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Lol "we gotta get your paperwork right before pushing you out the window. See igor on the first floor and Vlad on the 5th."

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 10 points 9 months ago

Of course they can. They don't even need it to be true.

[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I wonder how he isnt fell out from a window already

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 6 points 9 months ago

Seems like a show to give election at least some appeal of legitimacy.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

So, Navalny 2018 all over again