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The creators of SponsorBlock did it again, now we can crowdsource better titles and thumbnails as well. I just tried it with LinusTechTips who is a worst offender when it comes to clickbait and its really great.

Compare without DeArrow

and with the extension

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[–] RadioRat@beehaw.org 36 points 2 years ago

Clickbait has this singular capacity to make one feel treated as a simple primate. Such a relieving comparison.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Holy shit! This is amazing! But how will I ever know what's REALLY IMPORTANT without ALL CAPS and a shitton of BANGS?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[–] st3ph3n@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't forget the USELESS FUCKING ARROWS.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

Unless it's pointing to a red circle.

[–] athalean@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've already noticed a couple videos where the corrected title made me more interested in the video than the clickbait title. Hope this extension takes off!

[–] Pechente@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

That’s how it is most of the time for me. I unsubbed from LTT because their clickbaity videos made it hard for me to see what I’m interested in. With this extension I might actually start watching their stuff again.

[–] SmugBedBug@lemmy.iswhereits.at 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The removal of the custom thumbnail is refreshing. No more wired reactions with an arrow pointing at something.

I'm going to give this a try. The sponsorblock people have great ideas!

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This made me realize how much I hate the YouTube metagame.

It would be awesome if this could be ported to ReVanced

[–] Sleeping@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If I still used YT's main front-end, this would've been great.

[–] e8d79@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

SponsorBlock has been added to alternative frontends as well, so there is a good chance DeArrow will be ported.

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[–] obsoulete@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I tried it. It works well. But, I don't think I will use it, because I usually know YouTubers to avoid when it comes to clickbaiting. Looking at you, Scotty Kilmer. :)

[–] poudlardo@terefere.eu 10 points 2 years ago

Feels like we're back on youtube in its early form, more organic. great idea i'm downloading it

[–] Grimace@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

It seems no matter how many channels I block there's always more annoying eyesore thumbnails, so this is fantastic.

[–] XPost3000@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly I'd probably be the type to be like "yeah I hate click bait!" Download this, and then stop watching videos entirely because they all look really boring

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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

After Mastodon and Lemmy I think need a federated youtube alternative now too. Yes, I know PeerTube exists, I just need it to get a nice boost in attention just like the other got.

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Video hosting is way more resource intensive (and therefore expensive) than text and even the most image filled of Lemmy communities

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I know. They use peer-to-peer, hence the name PeerTube, that means while you are watching a video, you also upload that video for others to see. Granted the concept falls flat with so little users as there is never another person watching the exact same video at the exact same point it time, but in theory it should scale up.
I think we could also have a standalone desktop application to watch and seed. In the browser you stop seeding as soon as you close the tab, but with the desktop application you could allow for further seeding. People who want to keep the platform alive could practically donate their upstream traffic. I would.
I wish people would use it more cause I like the concept a lot.

[–] knokelmaat@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

The concept still works with almost no users. If you're the only one watching a video, the original host is more than capable of serving it to you and so no need for extra peers ;).

Being able to handle a small amount of users isn't the problem, it's once a lot of users suddenly join in that the system would collapse without the peer functionality.

Also, peer tube is not fully decentralized. All videos need to be stored on an instance (similar to torrent seedboxes) so there will always be at least one direct source available. So I don't think that standalone app as you describe is needed. (That would be interesting though in a fully decentralized model, without any instances but all videos just floating between peers. But that would have the danger of creating dead videos similar to dead torrents)

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 3 points 2 years ago

I assume that in the short term transcoding is also going to become an issue. Most fedi servers are being hosted on cloud providers like Hetzner, DO, Linode, etc. who do not have any kind of encoding hardware, and modern codecs like VP9 or god forbid AV1 are horribly slow to encode without HW acceleration.

I know there are several platforms that do offer it (Amazon and Google do AFAIK) but those can still get pretty expensive, and there is a sizeable chunk of people here who may not want their content to reach Amazon or Google.

[–] unabatedshagie@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Awesome, it's like Clickbate Remover +.

If it works half as well as SponsorBlock I'll be a happy man.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

I was genuinely surprised how well SponsorBlock works. I was assuming it to skip the sponsored sections only on accounts with millions of subscribers but in reality it almost never fails.

[–] ehrenschwan@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Given that SponsorBlock is in Youtube ReVanced, do you think this will be included in ReVanced in the Future?

[–] e8d79@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

Your best bet is to ask developers yourself.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (9 children)

This extension is free, forever, for anyone who installs it during the beta. Yes, that means there will be a paywall for new users only in the future, but I promise that there will still be a way to for people to get free access. Of course the extension will always remain fully open source, with a publicly downloadable database, just like SponsorBlock.

I'm a bit confused what this means / will mean. A paywall but also still alternative free access?

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[–] Spudger@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When it removes the entirety of LTT from YouTube it will worth a try. There isn't much in this world that makes me seethe but that plonker is one.

[–] randomperson@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I kinda like LTT materials, especially with Anthony but this extension is a godsend as I always hated their crappy thumbnails and titles.

[–] e8d79@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] randomperson@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't aware of that.

[–] OonTaaKissa@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

LTT makes good videos that are hidden behind obnoxious thumbnails. I hate how it's sometimes impossible to tell what a video is about because the title is so vague, but I understand why they do it. He has a company to run, he has employees to pay. He has said multiple times that he doesn't like it, but it would be a stupid to not do it because a bright colored thumbnail with a face going :O gets way more views than anything else. Clickbait haters are such a small minority that it's worth doing because 95% of people don't care

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

He has said multiple times that he doesn't like it, but it would be a stupid to not do it

Most youtubers don't like it, but the numbers don't lie: it works.

If your business model requires clicks and views, you are pretty much forced to do what is proven to work.

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[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I get that people can find him annoying, but that plonker's video on dashcams actually helped me make a properly informed choice that literally saved me hundreds of dollars AND ensured I got something that actually had higher fidelity recording than many devices multiple times its price.

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[–] Icarus@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

I really like this, and I will probably use it, but I hate clickbate thumbnails with a passion and avoid them as much as I can.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't see where I can submit titles on a video page?

For SponsorBlock there's a button in the video player toolbar.

The demo video shows a button on the video description title. But I don't see one (on a video that has no DeArrow data yet).

Are submissions not open yet?

/edit: Since my comment I've seen it on other video pages. Dunno if it was a technical issue, delay, account moderation, or video / channel specific or what.

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[–] Sabakodgo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Negative_Pair_5694@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

This one will additionally use user submitted titles and thumbnails when available instead of just random ones.

[–] janus2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

If this ever gets ported for NewPipe and/or LibreTube it'll be sensational

The fact that it exists makes me happy :]

[–] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

Now THIS will be useful.

[–] anders@rytter.me 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

@e8d79 cool. haha. but still. i wanna see click bait titles, because then i know who is most likely a scammer 😀

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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm loving this and have contributed a bunch already, but one problem I'm noticing is people labeling things "reviews" on videos that are definitely not reviews, like impressions videos or unboxings.

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[–] UlfarrOT@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Just out of curiosity, how do you determine what is and isn't clickbait?

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[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Oh nice, thank you for making this and Sponsorblock Ajay, what a great person.

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