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[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 10 months ago (5 children)

How many more years of these news stories do I have to read before we actually do something about this?

I'm so fucking sick of this happening constantly.

[–] darthsid@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The sad thing is we’ll keep reading stories like this until we die. I can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel and I’m tired of being that guy talking about this issue.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 22 points 10 months ago

we die

Or they do. This level of wealth inequality is a new phenomenon, and it is already showing how great it goes, with fascism and other fringe ideologies on the rise.

The chance that Trump or a similar idiot being elected and turning dictator is a possibility in the US is a direct consequence of these fuckwits gutting society itself. It is very well possible that these guys will either become sock puppets of a Trump-like figure, and keep some of their wealth in exchange for losing all of their power, or commit grisly murder-suicides of their whole family in droves like in Russia.

They either don't see or don't care that they are cutting down the branch that they (and everyone else) are sitting on.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We have to stop voting for rich or wanna-be-rich business people. It's the only way. Combined votes for the best of the worst to eliminate the tyrants, then vote out the wealth focused. Can't believe that's the situation we are in.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 points 10 months ago

Voting alone will not get us out of this situation. Maybe implementing rank choice of voting might do it. I just don't see good solutions because the politicians were all about sold anyway it doesn't matter which one gets voted in, voters never get the final say.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (5 children)

There's very little we can do. Even the 'eat the rich' idea isn't very viable since they can hide in their nuclear war protection bunkers surrounded by armed security.

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[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The economy is a fucking joke.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago

always has been

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And yet the majority of Trump voters will cite it as the reason they're voting for him.

People are unredeemingly stupid.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It's not irrational to depend on the economy (as defined by news media) because a good economy does mean a lot of good things for even the lowest level workers. The problem is a good economy means the rich get richer and a bad economy means poor people lose their jobs. There is no consequence for the rich except maybe having to reorganize their investments and lose a marginal amount of their wealth. Whereas in comparison poor people can end up on the streets.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's put very simply here:

The world’s five richest men have more than doubled their fortunes to $869bn (£681.5bn) since 2020, while the world’s poorest 60% – almost 5 billion people – have lost money.

... the world’s billionaires were $3.3tn (£2.6tn) richer than in 2020, and their wealth had grown three times faster than the rate of inflation.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Divided you beg - the Republican way. United you bargain - the Democrats way. Keep voting Republican and keep making the rich richer.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 77 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It will trickle down any moment now. Any moment.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Something d-o-o economics. Voo-doo economics.

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[–] rabiddolphin@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is such a good visualization of big numbers and big bank accounts.

It's also a good way to really see the bull shit argument that it's unfair to tax the wealthy at a higher rate. Even if they get taxed at 90% (which I don't think will happen in my lifetime) they still will have enough money for them and their decedents to live a lavish lifestyle. And that extra money could really make America into the country that it pretends to be.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Also, the "taxed at 90%" is a red herring too, since that's not how progressive tax brackets work. Nobody's effective tax rate would be close to 90%, even if we raised the top marginal rate to nearly 100%.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If tax brackets were sensibly set, with a >90% rate for the top bracket, these people would still be very wealthy but the amount given to tax would be almost all of their wealth, since the highest tax bracket would kick in just a few pixels into the giant boxes on that diagram. And there would be nothing wrong with that.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Right. If they were sensible. But I'm OK with taking it one step at a time and ease into it so it doesn't immediately get shut down.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is from 2021 so remember that the biggest boxes there need to be twice as big now. Your box, however, is the same size or smaller.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago

That makes me infurious rex.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 66 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Taxes or guillotines. Pick one.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Guillotines and then tax the next ones.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because if we have to break out the guillotine then the redistribution is gonna happen a lot faster than taxes...

[–] Deiv@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It would just go to their next of kin. You'd have to set up a guillotine slaughter house with a conveyor belt

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago

I fail to see any problem with this.

kicks French Revolution under the rug

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People think for some reason working themselves to death will move them upwards. Fuck this stupid system.

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What about those that are being forcefully coerced into doing so? I’m broke, and I’ll be working until the day I die, but it sure as hell isn’t because I want to.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

That is understandable. I meant mostly people who say you can grind your way out of poverty through hardwork. Like work-life balance isn't important.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure electing a billionaire will fix things right up in the US.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago

No actual billionaires are in the election.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How about we stop calling it their fucking money. It's inconceivable that someone can look at what has got to be at least 50% of all wealth ever made by humankind and say, "this is mine and just mine". That isn't what sane rational people think

[–] MisterHavoc@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Having that amount of money makes you lose all rational thinking my dude.

[–] gabekn@lemmy.eco.br 36 points 10 months ago

fuck capitalism

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Elon Musk, Bernard Arnault, Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison and Mark Zuckerberg

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Coincidentally, those same 5 are 2024's "who's who of sociopathic shitheads", a title they've earned with lifetimes of dedication to the craft

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago
[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wait Musk is still such a strong first place? I thought with twitter bombing, people starting to dislike Tesla, general weird behavior, he was losing quite a bit? I'm probably way out of touch but isn't someone catching uo to him?

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's the neat part. When you're rich you can make as many mistakes as you want, and you'll still be rich.

[–] cloud_punk@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Yep money keeps making money

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lost more money than anyone ever has ever and is still the richest human alive. Howzat for fucked

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[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tesla shares constitute something like 70% of Elon's total fortune. Twitter is overall not that relevant for his big picture wealth, and weird behavior even less so.

At the moment Tesla's stock price is in decline because of competition from China and the overall EV market not growing as fast, so Bezos or somebody else could indeed overtake Musk in the near term. But this could easily change again next month, the stock market is fickle.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It so cool that you can buy your way into an existing company that already had talent and an idea, and then become among the richest people in the world...

Wait sorry, Hard Work™©® yeah... That's what he did... Hard Work...

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[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Rich assets grow exponentially. They will exceed government budgets if they haven't yet. Then, they will have far bigger budget than governments.

Maybe the world will all become North Korea.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just capitalism working as intended, nothing to see here, please keep walking.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You guys ready to eat em yet?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

space billionaires. well defined, much more fun.

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