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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

they should change the DMCA that if a copyright troll purposely sends false/automated requests, forfeits their rights and can't claim anything anymore for the next century. And google should automatically reject any request that contains any reputable website like bbc, microsoft or nasa. And hopefully flag the copyright troll so any future request has lower priority/automatically rejected

[–] Overzeetop@beehaw.org 30 points 10 months ago

Since even inadvertent or unintentional copying can be punished as infringement, any takedown should be subject to the same level of scrutiny and false claims should be awarded statutory damages matching infringement of registered works, collectible by the party who’s non-infringing work was blocked, but actionable by any party who is denied access. So if you can’t get to content due to DMCA you can sue, but you cannot recover damages or expenses - if you win, the $175k(?) per fraudulent take down is payable to the content owner. In that way, it’s recognized that an individual looking for content is injured by the takedown, but there is no financial incentive for take-down vigilantism.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, they do have to put in the notice that it's accurate under penalty of perjury. Presumably if you received the notice and can be bothered, you can not only contest it but bring charges against them if it's false.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why haven't we seen any of that happening?

[–] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Because who's going to bother?

I got false DMCAed on a mod a while back by someone I literally hired to do development and server hosting for me who then violated our contract and ran off with a month's fees after shutting down the server. The code he tried to DMCA me over (which was made to my specifications at my request and adjusted by me) was written under a paid contract. So not only could I have gone after him for the false DMCA, I probably could have gotten a year of server fees out of him.

But like, why? He's that kind of petty, certainly, but I can't be bothered with that shit. It was a blip. We recoded his tiny little half-assed mod that was already 90% a pre-existing mechanic, reuploaded, and waited the couple of weeks to be able to get our original back up. Whatever.

I think most people who are targeted by false DMCAs just don't feel like wasting their time in the court system over some petty (if malicious) inconvenience.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

TIL https://lumendatabase.org/ is the best place to search for warez because all DMCA takedown notices are listed there 😂 Spread it far and wide, folks!

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

warez

It's an old code, but it checks out

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago

What do the kids say nowadays? 😄 I still add "warez" to my queries when "download X for free" doesn't cut it.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Artemis seems to have been embroiled in ownership disputes for millennia… just ask the people of Ephesus.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

As I recall there's not much left of that temple to dispute.

[–] marius851000@lemmy.mariusdavid.fr 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I'll have to thanks Lumen contributors (Google first). I'm not worried about Google de-indexing them, but I'm,more worried about others (I have experienced lacking result on DuckDuckGo (and Bing, that they use) over what I can only assume is wrongfull (and non-transparent) DMCA (first with ListenBrainz).

I've switched to Brave. Work better.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago

I’ve switched to Brave.

Good luck with that.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 3 points 10 months ago

My lemmy instance is deindexed on bing/ddg probably due to a false claim by a copyright troll

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Yet another clue as to why Google search sucks as time goes on.