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[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 109 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The cool thing about inflation "plummeting" is that it doesn't undo the damage high inflation already did. Food is still massively more expensive than it was a year ago, weirdly enough that bothers people.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 77 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It also means that prices are still going up, just not as fast

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago

Something so many people miss lmao

"Inflation is down" Ok and? Damage is still done from the insane rate it was at, and thanks to the austerity measures the admin took (like raising interest rates), things are arguably worse

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[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yeah but wages went up by 5% - person trying to argue what a great job Biden has done.

They didn't seem to get why people are still doing poorly in the economy

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[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just do more derivatives until numbers start looking good.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

The jerk, snap, crackle, and pop of inflation are lookin' really good!

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 78 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

"Inflation plummeted from going up very very very fast to just going up very fast"

That's not how plummeting works. Inflation hasn't gone down, prices are in fact still going up. They are in fact higher now than they were before.

"Oh but you need inflation" yeah if you're a fucking idiot classical economist that thinks people receiving a fair wage is the worst possible thing to happen.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Being forced to learn partial differential equations and command economics to fuck with Libertarians "but muh calculation problem" is a curse because it illustrates just how badly the lanyard class fails to understand their own economic arguments for maintaining power.

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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 71 points 10 months ago (9 children)

People talk about “Econ 101”, but even in my actual Macro 101 course, taught by a libertarian professor, we had good discussions about how broad metrics like “GDP growth”, “inflation”, or “unemployment” in themselves can be distorted or meaningless without drilling down and really understanding the numbers. The example the prof used was talking about a low unemployment rate but if a lot of people have just given up looking for work then just looking at that one rate will tell you very little about what’s really going on.

I just think it’s that libs know the economy sucks and are scared shitless because a bad economy means Trump wins.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago

I just think it’s that libs know the economy sucks

Many will admit it, but they believe it is either unavoidable or delayed effects from Trump (may be partially true)

As well, the natural cycle of capitalist crisis leads people to think that a downturn is in fact a good thing because it means the recovery is already coming. It shields systemic flaws and corruption from any attention because obvious wrongs are construed as natural.

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A 5% unemployment rate is "optimal" iirc and record low unemployment is actually a bad economic indicator according to the federal reserve.

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The 5% unemployment goal is to ensure there's a reserve army of labor to depress wages. You're absolutely right that libs are ignoring the cognitive dissonance of ignoring that part of their ideology.

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 60 points 10 months ago (4 children)

God, I always forget how much he sucks when he's not doing Kelly

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Within you there are two cartoonists...

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit this is the same guy?

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've heard he's a lib, but was not really expecting whatever the fuck this is supposed to be

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[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

Is Ward Sutton his Ivy League alter ego or something?

[–] context@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

kelly let it snore

[–] axont@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

I choose to believe that Ward Sutton's cartoons under his own name are a bit he's doing. I'd rather believe he's mocking typical liberal editorial cartoons than face reality. I refuse to believe that the guy behind Kelly is some Biden defending, Ukraine flag liberal dork who deserve a wedgie. I instead choose to believe Ward Sutton is another character, the inverse of Kelly. His dark shadow if you will

Like I've already been through enough in my life by seeing what happened to William Gibson and Jello Biafra. How those two are liberals will always perplex me. I refuse to lose Kelly too. In the deep recesses of my heart lives a sicko from today until eternity sicko-yes

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm just now finding out that his name isn't actually Stan Kelly

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 45 points 10 months ago

This, except all gifts are labelled "genocide"

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

None of that shit matters.

Rent is up, food costs more, pay isn’t going up.

Most people are worse off than end of 2022.

Dems should be constantly attacking republicans for making things worse.

[–] Quexotic@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Exactly this. I'm sick of people saying "The Economy™" is doing so damn well. Never has it been clearer that there are many economies, 2 of which are the economy of the investor and the economy of the working class*. The absolute tone deafness of statements about "perception mismatch" only serves to illustrate the brutality of class conflict. It's not a misperception of reality, we're living in 2 different realities.

*Also the economy of the impoverished and the black market among others.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago

Inflation plummeted from 'apocalyptic levels' to merely 'terrible', why won't you vote for Genocide Joe?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Bit idea: convince liberals that bourgeois media is lying about Biden's economy as a capital strike to sabotage the most pro-labor president in history, and that's why we need to nationalize the media companies.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Recession averted? Isn't the US in a recession right now?

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Much like Warhammer 40K Orks, the economy is only broken if you believe it's broken. As long as you keep saying "this is the best the economy has ever been", everything will keep working just fine.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We painted the economy red so it goes faster.

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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Recession “averted” by kicking the can without any fundamental change in the time they bought

[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They spent TRILLIONS kicking that can down the road and the road is coming to a dead end soon.

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Naughty Kelly! spray-bottle kelly

We must edit this. Make it right.

What would you put on the speech bubbles and gifts?

[–] Pastaguini@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

Biden: “i didn’t bring any piss this year” Rest of the speech bubbles: remain unchanged

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Still trying to understand how inflation can be 9% June 2022-June 2023 but 3% dec-dec.

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It looks like a Kelly strip

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It is

Just him being sincere

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

This trash can still be mined for emojis

:biden-empty-sack: would be a good one

[–] Des@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yeah i keep looking for the sicko-flipped yes-hahaha-yes-r in the window

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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago

Where's the genocide box?

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

The thing any sort of discussion of econometrics and their relationship to politics never even considers are people's expectations. Like maybe Brandon and the dems should consider the fact he was promising everyone significant change. Like maybe if you promise people you are going to change things and then don't people might be mad about that regardless of the data. I was promised student loan relief, I don't give a shit that inflation came down, I didn't get my money you fucker.

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[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

"Line goes up, I don't understand, am I out of touch?"

"No, it can't be. It's the poors who are wrong."

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