chapotraphouse

Being tired and sad all the time and having no time or energy.

Most millennials and younger had/have severe burnout before they even finish their teens

I also don't really have social media, and that's how everyone communicates these days. How am I going to organize people? To do what, exactly? Immediately get infiltrated by the fash or arrested for a lukewarm protest?

I'm not a leader, I need an already good group to follow, I can't do anything right myself.

It frustrates me because I feel like that's the plan of our oligarchs, tire us out, make us sad, too numb to do anything but be herded through the system.

Obviously, I will always refuse to give up, I'm looking for a new group right now actually, but man, it's hard.

Actually reads the full thing after the first initial comment.

"I think Covid and the general amount of work everyone does are the two biggest obstacles to community building"

Having been organizing for a while now, this definitely did it and still does for a lot of people. I would also argue mental health does as well and burnout too!

I don't want to ruin someone else's day by forcing them to interact with me. 🙂

social anxiety and taking 5 more credit hours than i realistically should each school semester

All the people surrounding me are deeply reactionary senior citizens

My province, PEI, is a former Liberal now PC stronghold in the nation, and usually has zero representation for any other party besides those two. I've been trying to organize but people won't even vote for the NDP or Greens (outside of one riding).

The thing that's stopping me is the people. They just will not fucking bite out here. They're 1000% grillpilled the fuck out and basically all Red Tories and Liberals largely just along Protestant/Catholic lines. The PCs and Liberals are basically indistinguishable here and people are extremely checked out on politics.

I'm a coward, although I do get along with my coworkers so maybe that's something.

I was talking to a comrade of mine recently and they mentioned that the 'American dream' of being locked into a mortgage was designed to crush the union movement, so i'd say that probably does a lot to fuck up community organising

Organise to do what? I joined a socialist party but all they do is give out their party newspaper that absolutely no one reads and ask for donations. Seems like a complete waste of time tbh.

I've been thinking about going to work in a soup kitchen a couple days a week. But even then I feel like it would be better for me to just work overtime at my actual job and donate the money to the soup kitchen.

Nuffin'

That's what I'm doing!

I'm taking a break after working hard on a project I won't mention for opsec reasons. It left me a bit burned out and I've been taking time to work on myself and my relationships.

That personal work has been very productive and I'm slowly making my way back into a presence with my local org.

I live in a small-ish university town with a max of 2 degrees of separation for any random person. I put my unfortunately distinctive name and face on an attempt to start a DSA chapter here a little over 6 years ago, then burned out because I had undiagnosed autism and ADHD and couldn't get a good grasp on group dynamics.

There's a lot that went wrong, and it contributed to a social life spiral - I tried to go back to hanging out with my old townie friends, people who weren't even DSA-level leftists, and it was hard to like them anymore or have much compassion for them, because I know how they feel about the societal stuff. They don't give much of a fuck about anyone who isn't them.

Then COVID happened, and seeing that even that didn't inspire any extra care in any of them - they were having parties as soon as it wasn't illegal to do so, and I bet they were probably doing them before and just not posting about it. My husband and I both have immunocompromised parents with lung issues, and seeing how little of a fuck our "friends" gave about us or our parents was a disappointing shock. We got them to Skype us once the entire time. We tried to move past it once we got vaccinated, but the shine was off. We are not friends with any of those people anymore.

I found a local Food Not Bombs chapter in autumn '22, but then my mom got super sick, so I left because I didn't have time to do anything with them anymore. I was having a hard time feeling like I fit in, too, and trying to cram in organizing with people I suspect don't like me wasn't a high priority when I thought my mom was dying.

So now I've got no friends, a bad reputation with the local leftists, and idk where to go from here. Doing the DSA thing introduced me to another local chapter of a big org - ISO maybe? they split off the national org a while back - and while one of them definitely hated me, there were a couple that seemed to actually kinda like me, and I've thought about reaching out to them to see if they're doing anything I could help with.

I'm in a weird place though personally, struggling with content warning feelings while coming to terms with AuDHD I didn't know about for 40 years, and I definitely need a therapist before I put myself out there that much again. I made an Open Path account a couple weeks ago and reached out to a therapist but haven't heard back yet. I didn't want to pester hard though, because it's the holidays and not an emergency.

So yeah, that's where I am, feel free to make suggestions if you have them or ask questions if it will help inform your suggestions or satisfy your curiosity.

I'm in a pretty good org, but I haven't been active in over six months. I've had a lot of mental health problems, anxiety, depression, probably ADHD, which for some reason have been holding me back a lot more recently than they used to. I wanted to take a break from being involved in the org and sort out my mental health first, but now I'm thinking that being active, learning, putting myself out there, taking in responsibility is how I'm going to sort myself out. I've been really anxious about being perceived as someone disagreeable and have always been very averse to confrontation, so I think I need to face down these fears. So when I get back after the holidays, I want to be active again

Covid, having a family, living in a rich rural lib area where I am half the age of everyone else and where everything is a lengthy drive away. American individualism also makes it difficult to get people to do things unless exploitation is involved.

I'm far too introverted and private to be a "leader" of anything so trying to start my own group or do entryism into an existing group is a no-go. All the leftists groups in my state are a joke. My work place is CHUD Heaven, the owner loves hiring Vets so I'm nervous to even bring up not wanting to invade Venezuela to them. I don't really want to start a union to help imperialist failsons get more treats.

Plus I'm pretty doompilled at the prospects of organizing in the imperial core. The anti-communist propaganda and tasty treat cocktail the West has dreamed up is just too damn good, everyone's brains are jello. Making myself miserable in the probably vain hope that I can build .0000001% of communism doesn't seem worth it, I'm pretty dedicated to at this point.

Still finding the right group and social energy. An old dude in one group thought I was a maoist. I thought he was pretty cool.

One is that I've been dragging my feet on getting (back) on a platform that most people use for organizing.

Another is that people very easily end up at each other's throats. Some of it is fallout from a schism that blew up 2 years ago, but a lot of it is just people being vindictive.

That said, there is quite a lot that I'm involved in. Honestly the rate of how much things are going on here makes me want to invite people to come here.

I'm shy

The existing community

Right now it’s just time available and lack of knowledge. I’m putting together an extremely basic program while everyone is distracted by the holidays and I’m going to present it to some interested comrades in the near future to get them interested in helping lead the effort, because it ain’t communism if I’m doing it alone. I’m hoping we can get something going to educate ourselves and others, help the community, and grow the movement, but I’ll settle for organizing experience and educating each other at this point.

I’m involved in other organizing efforts, but none of them are Marxist parties.

it's covid, I did a lot more social activity before the pandemic. but now most of the people in those groups don't care about getting themselves a d w everyone else sick so I have like 5 people I can trust won't bring me a potentially disabling virus when I hang out with them

Because I don’t like people, and most people IRL don’t like me very much.

I'm working on creating digital and sorta technological infrastructure. I was part of a local org. I did not disagree with them with regards to theory in anyway, and they were all much more well read and knowledgeable in ML than I was (and am).

They did not know very much about contemporary technology and the potential uses it could have. Fine. They did not want to use social media (in the broadest sense of the term, even for an internal intranet). Fine. However, I've been wracking my brain around and I can't for the life of me get how they could not conceive, if they were to look at it dialectically, that there are things that they don't know and that they don't know that they don't know.

I guess I'd like to do the plumbing and logistics of stuff. I was never given an opportunity. I asked, I was not allowed to do it in my free time. I was not listened to. And then some comrades were kinda mean to me too. I didn't like that very much. I also did not like that comrades spoke for members of other marginzised groups (e.g. women). The executives (student group FYI) knew I had issues with anxiety and mental health.

In the mean time I want to improve my technical prowess and memorize more marxist and classical (e.g. Aristotle's Organon, al-Farabi's islamic neoplatonism, darwin, Malthus, Roseau, Hayek) so that I can talk like I know theory too without practical consideration. I have a sense that if I quote the right people and don't focus on empirical stuff ALL the time as I felt comrades in the org did, I'd establish enough good will for them to listen to the immediately material things I';d suggest and am confident enough now to admit that I know of (not 'know' just know of).

+18 R district. Most of the "lefties" here are that turn fascist the moment they are scratched. The closest org I have is over a 30 minute drive away and my "availability" is incompatible with it, not to mention the gas costs and the time sinks. For what pissing off the cops to get beaten, jailed, and fired from my job? What would that accomplish? I'm better off giving to things like a Doctors Without Borders, St. Jude, or the local HIV AIDS prevention org that gives out free Narcan. At least that's some material good. Educate my coworkers and turning CHUD family members off from this culture wars bullshit. It's educating in a way spreads, and minimizes risk.

Wacky shift schedules that make regular meeting times not regular and totally off-wack for traditional schedules. Risk to job and potential hyper targeting. Extreme introvert INFJ.

I sacrificed myself for Bernie's 2016 campaign. First interaction as a gentleman from Bechtel. It was brutal on my body, mind, soul. Until people are done being tricked into D and R are your only options, it's a and not worth any more of efforts, time, money, or sanity. I tried. I went all out. Saw the potential, and it was there. And then he squandered it for Her Ego

And the movement choked itself out. Like Obama's massive organization before it.

The Squad were were supposed to be the movement's representatives to try to change the course just turned around and capitulated along with . #FrauDSquAd and screw the DSA and their bending over for the Does Not Care Corporation while scolding those who saw no future in the DNC. That writing was on the wall for a long time.

I give a bit to Stein for the amusement factor of being a thorn on the establishment's side. I'll friggin do it again too.

It's just watching the world burn and the empire sink now. Tired of trying to educate idiots who refuse to learn from even recent history. It's beyond time for education. I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's not happening in my lifetime. There is no path forward. The dominoes are already falling, and unless there is serious hard intervention, nothing is going to stop the inevitable rest of the domino chain from falling as a natural order of events. You don't need to be a psychic or genius to see where it ends or where it is going.

It's like a drunk addicted relative - until they (the country / ) is willing to admit they have a serious problem and needs help, it's just watching a painful slow moving trainwreck. It no longer shocks you. The just keep doing it. After a while the specticle of it all wears off, and you get tired and bored for waiting for the lesson to be learned the hard long way. BLUEBERRIES!

The reason why younger liberals are more enthusiastic about organizing is because they know gaining power is realistic. So they campaign, canvas, pester, etc.

I suspect most young socialists know that the US will kill entire families before letting a “democratically elected” (within the bourgeois system) socialist win anything substantial. So they just treat it as a social club, which is fair, a good political organization is not about politics 100% of the time.

Still, this results in a lot of time being wasted doing performative stuff. I still think that performative action is still important even if the results are localized to the media fear mongering. It’s just that without any tangible results, people will burn out. Leadership needs to be aware that book clubs and movie nights and protesting can only carry you so long before people start thinking “why can’t I just post epic tweets at home denouncing imperialism or donate money instead of protesting?” So many people, including POC and those oppressed by the west and capitalists in general, fall into the trap of jadedness, powerlessness, and assimilation. “Yeah it sucks. What can you do?”

With that being said, ultimately, I don’t believe that any agitation will be effective until industry is brought back to the US from overseas and people began to experience the feeling of being overworked in every aspect because nothing would be cheap anymore. Right now people are just “meh, I’m miserable but I don’t mind chugging along a little longer.” Until then, it’s just universal capitalist realism.

I don’t support acceleration, but it seems like the only time people start to question our current system is when everything begins to fall apart. Acceleration will be decided by those whose net worth is 5000x mine, so it doesn’t really matter whether I want it or not. I guess it’s just a matter of being more prepared than liberals and fascists when the time comes.

I've built a smallish community of fellow comp sci majors in my college town but it still kinda sucks. They're all great people but not the kind to go to parties which severely limits what I can do with them. The problem is that I don't feel comfortable cold approaching people. I can get them to go bowling or drinking which is fun but I kinda also want to meet other people outside my major. I can be a social butterfly if I have someone to back me up, but I suck dick on my own.

The town is kinda dead on its own with most of the events being for middle aged couples. The university is a place to meet young people but they're either busy as hell or not socially available.

I don't know how to talk to people I don't know and people just most of the times don't seem to be interested in forming any sort of actual bond (which has kept my friend circle terribly small since I've moved two years ago) and all the leftist organizations around are just really not particularly inviting (they are nice and open but there's always some stench of the scene to them), but here's some good news: There's some student organizing that seems to be brewing at my university with more than one genuinely spontaneous action against the university leadership (and the continuous police presence on campus) in the last two weeks that I've been part of. We'll see if more develops from that (the Christmas break sure has put a damper onto things) but I'm in good spirits, people do really seem to have some energy for once and I sure hope to find a place for me within there somehow. There's a resurgence of politically organized house squatting in my city as well, which in a city where the rent prices are absolutely ridiculous is great to see.