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Israeli troops killed a youth at a hospital and read out Jewish prayers at a mosque in the occupied West Bank city of Jenin during raids that Palestinian authorities said on Thursday killed 12 and that Israel said helped capture dozens of militants.


Alaa Al Sadi, who lives in the Jenin camp, said soldiers who came to his home searching for guns smashed his television before taking him blindfolded into detention at an army compound outside the city for about 14 hours, along with hundreds of other people.

The soldiers found no guns but demolished his family home and accused him of being a member of Hamas, telling him he should leave the West Bank and move to Lebanon or Syria, Al Sadi, 44, said in an interview. He denied any links to the Gaza-based Islamist militant group.

The Israeli military did not respond to a request for comment about Alaa Al Sadi's account.

The majority of the people taken into detention earlier in the raid have since been released, the Palestinian Prisoner's Club, an advocacy group, said in a statement. The Israeli army said 60 wanted suspects were transferred to security forces for further questioning.

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[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago (7 children)

How the hell is desecrating a mosque going to help with anything? Stopping the resistance? Just desecrate a mosque and they will all just magically give up? Holy shit every time when you think it possibly can’t get any worse the IOF finds a way to top its own actions…

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

It's religious fanatics all the way down to hell.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago

Perhaps hoping to trigger an uprising from Phalastinians over there, they are mostly unarmed so Israeli army would finish them quicker.

Nathanyahu is a really wicked person

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

It's a playbook as old as colonialism. Do something horrible. Then when the locals retaliate you tell the world they started it and escalate to genocide.

[–] DanL4@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The solders involved in desecrating the mosque were detained. Not sure what will happen to them. The right in Israel tend not to care, or at most say these things happen and we're at war etc. The left are not having it, and see it as part of the extreme right religious movement that is our terrible government.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The same fate of what happened to that politician calling to drop atomic bomb over Gaza. N O T H I N G.

At this stage, it is pretty obvious what Israel's goal is here. They are not looking to find peace. They are looking to extend the conflict and continue provoking them and make the life of Palestinians even more miserable.

It is about time for the UK and the US to see through this parade the truth.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

desecrating a mosque

What does this even mean? The article says they recited some prayers in there. Who cares about this magic shit and why?

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think that's why they said the soldiers would be disciplined. I mean if you want to generalize the entire IDF as a pair of radicalized soldiers who did something terrible... well then. You've made the case that the legitimately elected government of Gaza (Hamas) is all Gaza residents. And I disagree eith you there too.

You sure that's what you're trying to say?

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 41 points 11 months ago (5 children)

At no point will any of these soldiers ask if they're the baddies.

What is it in human nature that enables this total lack of awareness?

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

pffft, not MINE though. /s

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

Definitely not mine, since I don't have one.

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Core problem. 100%, we need to get rid of it.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right? Think about how fucking absurd this is. This whole "desecration" nonsense.

"I am going to say my special magic words at your special magic words building! Take that!"

"THIS OUTRAGE SHALL NOT STAND! ONLY MY SPECIAL MAGIC WORDS CAN BE SAID AT MY SPECIAL MAGIC WORDS BUILDING!"

And then they killed each other over special magic words. Invisible sky man is watching and doing nothing despite all the magical and very special words being said that he can definitely hear and cares about.

Fucking madness.

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Agree. The whole temple mount thing.... you children can't behave, now nobody gets to play here. It's off limits to all parties. Now everyone loses because you can't get along. Fucking nutters.

[–] DanL4@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It only takea a few to do such a thing. They probably grew up in an extreme religious home and watch the Israeli propaganda channel (fox news style lies and brainwash). I hope they will be punished for both the desecration and the terrible PR, making Israel look even worse.

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Has anybody asked Anthony Blinken or co?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Americans voting for Genocide Joe aren't asking themselves this question either.

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I felt that way when I saw majority support in Gaza for Hamas in a recent poll in Gaza and overwhelming support for Hamas on the west Bank.

It's a good question.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They want to provoke all out war. And American evangelicals are salivating...

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That absolutely is one of Hamas's publicly stated goals. You're right.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seems Hamas and Israel ain't so different after all.

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Israel was on track for two state before Hamas got Bibi elected, edging out Perez by less than a percent in the wake of their suicide and bus bombings of civilians.

In return Bibi, who is a war criminal along with many others of Likud, helped them remove Arafat... and together they insured two state will never happen.

So Bibi and Hamas, yes, partners from the beginning. I'd love to see him and other members of Likud at the ICC.

Hamas and Israel, no, that's just a racist antisemitism intentional conflating of Bibi and Israel..

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hamas got bibi elected? That’s a new level of blame shifting!

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All you gotta do is study. The facts are there, even though they don't fit your made-up story.

[–] GutsBerserk@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Israel is a terrorist state. There is no place for Zionism in this world. It will be end of everything as we know it.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh! Is Hamas in the West Bank? I thought they were only indiscriminately steamrolling Gaza because Hamas was there!

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

They also shot 3 of their own hostages who apparently had escaped Hamas by themselves and were trying to get back into Israel.

Ironically a ceasefire might've saved their lives.

Oh well, Fascist Theocracy needs blood.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

They found no guns and several copies of The God Delusion in the mosque.