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[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

it's like AAA games are only early access these days

[–] 9cpluss@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In two years they can get the award for “best ongoing game” then, just like Cyberpunk :D

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

God, what a dick sucking award. Cyberpunk may be playable now, but it did fuck all to deserve that.

Better games launched excellent and got better with age. Launching to get removed from online stores and taking years to reach playable is not the best ongoing anything.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank corporate morons forcing devs to the door to meet ridiculous timelines, they don’t give a fuck if it’s ready or not.

I’m a SWE and my manager would tell me shit like “even Apple pushed out the iPhone with some bugs”, “at some point you have to wrap it and ship it”, etc. Mgmt uses this bullshit to feel better about their (or their bosses) poorly balanced priorities and decisions.

It’s all about announce early, bag as much interest and money as possible and then ship it regardless if it’s reached the definition of done or not (you better believe mgmt will throw those goalposts around as they see fit)

Pre-ordering morons hold some blame here as well as they play right into the bullshit I’m talking about

[–] idiocracy@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

why the surprise? as long as people keep buying they will try to squize more money for less effort.

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[–] malchior@aussie.zone 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Glad to see they're still improving it. When I get the Ultra Game of the Year Turbo Deluxe edition for $20 in years to come, I no doubt will enjoy it.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm gonna wait for the Ultra Game of the Year Turbo Deluxe edition Complete

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Can't forget the Ultra Game of the Year Turbo Deluxe Complete Anniversary edition, now with built-in mods.

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[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

i didnt play new vegas until the ultimate edition was 5 bucks at wal mart. thankfully avoiding the horrid bugs it had on launch

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[–] FatTony 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When a city map is a luxury.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 1 year ago

Insane that wasnt in the list of "must ship" features

[–] ACardboardRaven@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh boy, now i get to enjoy... basic features that should have been there at launch?

seems this is a recurring thing nowadays. i pray to god fable 4 doesn't suck the big one.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Putting your faith in a fable game to live up to expectations is a terrible move.

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[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nakey Jakey recently did a super indepth video on what is wrong with Starfield. And suffice it to say, I've removed the game from my wishlist. There's betterr games to spend my money on.

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If you too have an unhealthy relationship with absurdly long video essays, I'd point you in the direction of PatricianTV's Starfield analysis.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah yeah, wake me up when AI modders recreate Daggerfall in the ES6 engine.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think people would hate it again, seeing how they hated Starfield that is also procedural.

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[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

I'd say "i will pick it up on a sale in a year or two" but they're just going to release the enhanced / special / anniversary / superspace edition down the line too, so why bother

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until I can navigate in space like I can in FREELANCER...which BTW is from 2003....

I want nothing to do with it

[–] RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Friiiiick I miss freelancer so much. Best space sim to date.

It's free to download mate! Plus there's a huge mod that turns it into an MMO that is still being worked on

[–] Vqhm@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's abandon ware now

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main feature I want is better optimization. It’s really not good still and I’ve played with the settings more than I wanted to

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Last months patch did a lot for optimization, especially on the cpu and non amd gpu builds, seeing double digit gains.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still not buying that garbage.

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I let my Gamepass lapse and was considering re-upping it to play Starfield. And now I am for sure not going to re-up it for Starfield. Maybe I’ll visit it in a few years, but it sounds like not a great time from Nakey Jakey’s review on it.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He provided so many examples of how it's worse than Skyrim 😅

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just the fact that the ship combat is awful AND you don’t get to fly your ship TO other planets makes this a pass for me.

[–] spiderkle@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

It's nice Bethesda wants to pull a Cyberpunk, but Starfield at it's core just isn't as good. I'm all for some redeeming updates though, because at least there would be something to come back to

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Pro tip: finish game first, THEN release it!

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't bought Starfield, was waiting for sub-$25. If there are no mods, I'm lowering that to sub-$10.

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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I should probably pick this up when it’s on sale. I bought it on release after playing CyberPunk with ray tracing and asked for a refund after playing for 20 minutes because it just looked like garbage in comparison.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Part of the reason why Bethesda games visually looks bad is because their tied to the hip with creation engine for modders to use. Part of the reason why bethesda games have soo many mods is because of how much of the games engine is open to modders to modify.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I agree. I was fine with it for Skyrim and Fallout 4 but after getting used to how gorgeous CP2077 was, the difference was jarring for a AAA title in 2023.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is, cyberpunk also has mod support, and it's pretty good, I use a climbing mod, a drone mancer class mod, and before the 2.1 update it already had a metro system via mod.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When will game companies learn that they could be doing so much better if they just released their games AFTER they're finished?

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminder that Todd wanted to release this last year, imagine the state it was in lol

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Starfield is a fucking joke.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

"all new ways of traveling"

Will they add a metro?

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