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My view on this very feminist piece is that Winehouse wasn't anywhere near as influential or impactful to music and other musicians as Nirvana (which is the article's main point of comparison). Many other musicians and singers have come and gone (both male and female) and are not held in anywhere near the same reverence as Cobain, and that's simply because they had no lasting impact.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kurt hid his addiction, while Amy bragged about not going to rehab. She was also a victim of tabloids, who stood by while she wrecked her life. The inculsion of Kurt Cobain into the narrative is completely superfluos, and only serves to bolster the author's political views.

[–] gk99@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

My view on this very feminist piece is that Winehouse wasn't anywhere near as influential or impactful to music and other musicians as Nirvana

As just a casual music listener born in '98, I'm not sure I've ever heard a song by Amy Winehouse. I still hear Nirvana pretty regularly though to date.

[–] Sigma@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they're remembered differently because you can't compare a legendary frontman from the 90s to a 1 hit wonder in the 2000s. they are definitely comparable as far as addiction goes but the quality of music? Amy winehouse had like 1 or 2 songs that got popular compared to the dozen or so hit songs that are still played regularly today while I can't remember the last time I heard Amy winehouse played. it has absolutely nothing to do with her being a woman. there are so many amazing female musicians who's music will be remembered with the same nostalgia as nirvana, Amy winehouse will simply never be one of them because she's not that great in my opinion.

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Who's Amy Winehouse*? I've probably never heard a song from her. I have heard most of Nirvana's songs, even the more obscure ones (how many casual music listeners know Beans?). And it has nothing to do with the artist's gender, or how famous they are. Along Cobain, another very impactful artist for me is Leslie Fish—I bet most people have no idea who she is, but everyone should give a listen to Firestorm🙃

*A rhetoric question.

[–] Jay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Amy Winehouse was an outstanding artist. And yet, in my opinion, she was nowhere near Nirvana in terms of creativity and impact on society.

Of course, mental illnesses in our society should be taken seriously and a good way of dealing with them should be found in order to help those affected. Whether Amy Winehouse, Britney Spears and co should serve as an example... I think we can work that out differently.

[–] chramies@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I felt that the media's treatment of Cobain and Winehouse both flipped the usual gender narrative, at least if what she says is true. Cobain was cared about and treated with concern while Winehouse was seen as a joke, somewhat like Gazza (British former footballer Paul Gascoigne, known for his alcohol-fuelled decline and very much left to it). I don't really remember Cobain, but in the late 2000s it was clear that Amy was on a very self-destructive path and nobody was going to care until she wound up dead.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

She didn't change anything

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