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What’s the bet this’ll end up with Sky News installed on all new TVs by default.

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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Make it mandatory to have an option to disable the smart bs.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A dumb TV that is just a monitor and your choice of STB. Our house has an AppleTV as HDMI1 on all devices and a HD HomeRun in the server rack to broadcast LiveTV over the network.

Other people have similar setups using Raspberry Pi’s running various HTPC packages, which I can recommend for those people who aren’t interested in Apple products.

No one should ever need to purchase a FireStick, Roku or Google Home thingy and no one should ever connect their TV directly to their Home Network.

[–] No1@aussie.zone -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wow. Everything is bad, except AppleTV and raspberry pi?

Drink any coolaid lately? Do you reply to any Android texts? Or just block them?

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As someone who hates Apple, I feel like you didn't even read his comment.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

JokeDeity, Thankyou for your support, despite our idealogical differences. This is why I love Lemmy and Mastodon over Reddit and others.

I personally don’t hate Apple, I do see a lot of things that are wrong with their platforms, but I don’t see solutions to these problems in other commercial platforms either , except for the open platforms.

[–] Thisismyusername169@lemmy.one 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It better include the option to uninstall them too!

[–] Drusenija@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From the article:

However, the order of tiles is left up to the manufacturer – and, importantly, users are free to delete or move the tiles as they wish. So ultimate control of the device still rests with the user.

[–] Thisismyusername169@lemmy.one 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ahh,I should have actually read the article.

Thanks

[–] Drusenija@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

All good! I can understand why your natural assumption with that headline is to assume it's going to be anti consumer in todays world.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What they should really do is pass legislation to force those companies to develop apps that actually work well.

[–] WaterWaiver@aussie.zone 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The broadcast freeTV electronic program guide (EPG) on my current TV is trash. It's clear they only cared about big corporate apps (that paid to get dedicated branded buttons on the remote).

  • Squint to see the tiny text (probably because it was designed & tested on a non-4K tv)
  • You have to visit the channels first for the EPG to populate for them.
  • There is no line to denote your current position in time on the chart. Instead you have to read the (tiny) time at the top right, then guesstimate its position on the chart, then look down.

My decade+ old Samsung plasma is so much better; but it wasn't a "smart" tv, so broadcast TV was its tea.

(Of course this still doesn't fix the fact the "apps" are buggy and slow. Already had the TV warrantied and parts replaced once because of some of them going black and white. I have no idea how such as weird problem could manifest OR how the solution was to exchange hardware components)

[–] No1@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

You're probably using the FreeTV/pbbtv guide. Turn that shit off.

You have to visit the channels first for the EPG to populate for them.

Unless your tv has dual tuners, which most don't because $, or use an internet connection to populate the TV guide, that's how digital TV guides work. Remember the analog TV guides? Yeah. You had to go and buy a paper...

Alternatively, you can visit any of dozens of online tv guide websites and get heaps more info with links to imdb etc for info and ratings. I don't even know why TV epgs are a thing...

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Unless your tv has dual tuners, which most don’t because $, or use an internet connection to populate the TV guide, that’s how digital TV guides work.

Some TVs will sweep through the channels populating the EPG while the TV is 'off' or store EPG data it received earlier, so as long as it's been plugged in recently it'll have a reasonably up to date EPG data right away.

[–] WaterWaiver@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

The EPG on my old TV was brilliant.

Any suggestions for online TV guide sites? I presume some of them might be better than others.

[–] MoonlitSanguine@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This article phrases this like it's a positive. Instead it now forces companies to preinstall even more bs.

[–] ky56@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

I guess the argument is if your TV is going to come preloaded with subscription crap to provide easier access, then taxpayer funded "local" content should be just as easy to access. I think it's a fair decision to have ABC iView, maybe SBS. God, can you imagine SkyNews coming preinstalled. Ugh.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

What’s the bet this’ll end up with Sky News installed on all new TVs by default.

In a way it already is. There is a Sky News channel on Samsung's free TV app which runs every time you turn on the TV.

[–] ky56@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Is this limited to ABC iView and maybe SBS? I hope it doesn't include the others. God, can you imagine SkyNews coming preinstalled. Ugh.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 11 months ago

Says it includes all f2a stations so 10/7/etc.

Sky are free to air in some parts of Aus, so it very well could apply to them as well.