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The subreddit r/steam, about the digital game storefront, received as many other subreddits a notice to open the community again, or else the mods would be replaced by those who abide.

The mods followed suit posting the following automod message under every new post:

As ya'll likely know, we've been dark to support the blackout against reddit's antagonistic behavior towards its own userbase. The admins sent us a message today saying we must open or get removed, so here we are.

For those of you browsing this subreddit on non-official apps (Reddit is Fun, Apollo, Sync, Boost, etc), they will break on July 1st due to reddit's new policies. We're opening back up but will leave permanent stickies in the subreddit and threads to keep folks in the know.

Our Discord [contains link to https://discord.gg/steam] server is active, don't forget to check it out.

Good luck and god speed.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

On visit, you quickly notice there is a community wide effort to focus on the literal topic of the given name and post about vapors, steam trains, and kitchen appliances. While posts about the gaming platform get downvoted.

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[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago

This blackout has really shown which subs have actual in-touch moderators, and which ones are just the admins' puppy dogs

A while ago, I had a comment auto-removed on WPT and got a message it was because my account was "not in good standing." When I messaged the WPT mods, they explained that they were test piloting a new tool the admins plan to use. For example, if you have a throwaway email address, no email address, or are connecting via VPN, you may be "not in good standing."

With things like that on the horizon, even if they roll back on what they're doing now, we're still not likely to have a very good time on that site.

I can't blame the mods who are trying to make change through protest (and who may not even be aware of the "not in good standing" BS), but I don't plan to stick around, and I don't foresee a very bright future for reddit at all.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

What a great idea. Just use an algorithm to ban any unprofitable user. Can't lose!

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

That explains why I got banned a while back and was told I violeted the TOS, but the crime they listed (Abusing the report button) was neither in the TOS nor something I actually did.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Speaking of segues, I didn't realize I'd been on lemmy for ten months already. Huh, look at that!

[-] Cynosure@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Honesty I think the big political subs are incredibly bot infested. Political content is an amazing way to make people mad and get them to spend more time on a platform, increasing engagement and letting reddit deliver more ads. It's not like it would be the first time they used bots to drive engagement and make communities look bigger.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Worse than bots. Active foreign influencers.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

The whole site is bot infested! Especially the large subs, but I've personally had scambots pop into my posts even on smaller subreddits.

People who say they won't leave reddit because "there's no good alternative" really have their head in the sand about how bad it really is. Nearly every alternative I've seen suggested is at least better than reddit (except for the really far-right ones like voat).

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[-] onepinksheep@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ah. So basically China's Social Credit system, but for Reddit.

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[-] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Reddit is trying to go to war with the kind of people responsible for Boaty McBoatface and they think they're going to win.

[-] Fihn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit execs don't care when people post like this. They aren't browsing the sub, all they see is user engagement is back up and that's a win. They can sell that to advertisers as a win. If you showed them the page they'd think it's weird but they probably wouldn't know it have ever been any different.

The only win to be had with the sub re-opening is to post nothing at all.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hardly anyone is going to spend hours browsing pictures of steam and engaging with it vs actual content so this certainly is not great for reddit.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah but that's not what they're doing. They're doing a contrarian circlejerk that'll get boring after a few days or until the next thing happens with the steam platform that they all want to talk about. There's already a highly upvoted post there about the UI update.

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[-] PitzNR@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I want that sentence on a t-shirt!

[-] jaydev@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Loving this age of anti-Reddit malicious compliance creating content for Lemmy!

[-] CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is going to be interesting in the long term for a lot of subreddits when people sort by top posts. Similar to when every sub had a net neutrality post stickied

[-] DarthRedLeader@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think these malicious compliance subreddit responses are as fun as the next person, but honest question: doesn't this work out in Reddit's favor? They don't care what's posted as long as content is being generated and traffic being driven to their site, right?

[-] Aurix@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

There is the nuance to it. The subscribers did not sign up for this initially. Therefore they will have to build a new community up which certainly won't have as many subscribers for a very long time and none of the post history.

At the same time posts actually asking about the Steam platform get downvoted heavily and thus dissuade further interaction.

Effectively the sub becomes useless, just the same as if it had stayed closed. It will drop in engagement in the long term.

The John Oliver memes attract more mainstream attention and clearly signal to investors the platform is not healthy, irrespective of the traffic it causes.

With more and more subreddits joining in on this, the All page gets flooded with shitposts annoying everyone. Those who stay certainly won't want to deal with this all the time and unsubscribe.

Of course group dynamics are unpredictable at times, but reddit is certainly more in turmoil than whatever traffic.

[-] Chailles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not to mention that the argument that moderators are acting in bad faith against what the users want isn't really holding up if a rather decent chunk of active users are in favor of doing this.

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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not really. The traffic they're getting from it is unsustainable and any would-be investor who is paying attention will notice this. This is really more a tactic to shatter the narrative that the mods do not represent the will of the general user and they are forcing the protests onto them.

[-] chris@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Would they? I'd assume they're getting most of their info from spaz, who will just point to the dip and then "see, number go up."

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

IPO's are risky for the investor. If the company is overvalued before the IPO, a huge chunk of money invested disappears almost immediately as the stock drops. So the big investors will be doing their research before putting their money in.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The only way to invest in Reddit is to short their stock.

[-] FizzlePopBerryTwist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Uh

c/steam ?

[-] Mishmash2000@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

This is terrible! I went to /r/steam to learn about steamed hams but they were clearly grilled! I'm not even sure they were hams?!? 1 star, would not visit again!!

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[-] wotsit_sandwich@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I love these wonderfully petty reactions to the Reddit issues.

Are there any other good examples out there for me to enjoy (I have already seen r/pics.)

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[-] steakryepig@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't understand the rationale behind admins compelling mods to reopen the subreddits. Aren't subreddits meant to be created and managed by the Reddit community? Shouldn't it be the community's decision to either close it or continue running them?

[-] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The rationale is: profit. Ultimately reddit relies on users for content, and they're hoping if the remove the organisers of the strike (the mods) and replace them with scabs, that the users will stop striking.

[-] Protegee9850@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There will be scabs eager to volunteer their time as moderators - at least for now - solely for the perceived power.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

At least until the spambot onslaught begins and they start to find it incredibly difficult if not impossible to keep up with the endless flow of spam due to their lack of assistance tools and beneficial third party apps.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

It seems more like they just want to give mods the illusion that they can make executive decisions about the subs they run so that they'll work for free to Reddit's benefit.

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

A few days ago, Reddit said that they "supported communities' decision to go private" (or something like that). Now that communities actually did it, they're backtracking.

[-] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Subreddits being controlled by the mods and community is just reddit's public face. Behind closed doors, the reddit admins see themselves as the masters.

[-] d_bradr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Epic sub bouta get pretty poetic. Wonder if we can pull it off with other subs. Trees being about trees, Rimjob Steve being about a man named Steve who makes vehicle rims, Piracy with actual pirates, Cats vs tech being about cats actively destroying pieces of technology etc

[-] DesTeufelsAvocado@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It makes me sad to see what happens on Reddit, but actions like this keep my hopes up. Not for Reddit itself, but for the community and its people, wherever it will be. :)

[-] fsk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was surprised that r/godot didn't turn into a discussion devoted to Samuel Beckett.

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

"It's an Albany expression" - so good :D

[-] Haan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
[-] root@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

From an ad revenue point of view, does this matter? Posts/ views/ clicks are all the same to them, no?

[-] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

People will eventually stop visiting if a subreddit no longer contains content that is interesting for them.

[-] GhostCowboy76@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The best way for the Reddit community to fight back is to leave to another community. In order for that to happen the Fediverse options have to keep growing and improving, like they are, so that people leaving feel comfortable knowing they have a good option. Reddit will be dead in 6 months.

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