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[–] MxM111@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is very difficult to develop any success there for the same reason why Russians left the right bank - the supply is very difficult over the river.

[–] insheets@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And yet the Ukraine forces are successful! I heard they developed new technology called bridges and boats.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You assume Russians did not have this technology? Getting few miles with foot solders with artillery support from the right bank is one thing. To fully develop this into meaningful strategic advance with heavy military equipment is another thing. It is difficult and risky. With all my heart I wish them good luck especially because I think it is very hard to advance in that direction.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't the whole point of the beachhead to threaten the Russian logistics to the choke points?

It can't be more than a week ago I read about this

[–] TheMechanic@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

That's exactly the point of this. To hold the position Russia has to have safe logistics and fortified positions. Ukraine only needs to increase the grey zone to disrupt Russia's logistics into Tokmak to collapse the front on the South.

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd be shocked if Ukraine isn't receiving Western support with sapper/combat engineer training, as well as equipment like floating bridges. Remember, the Allies built two entire temporary deepwater ports immediately following D-Day to facilitate rapid transportation of heavy equipment into Normandy.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VJJtnto-cI (english only available as auto translate but accurate here)

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I read that post as in it'll also be exceptionally difficult for them to keep it. They'll be at a disadvantage?

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

On the one hand, keeping boots on the ground is very difficult from a logistical standpoint.

But on the other hand, drones and artillery from the other bank can be used just as effectively. Russians are too busy throwing waves at Avdiivka to reinforce in large numbers in that area.