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Ukraine has recaptured some villages in the south and territory around the ruined city of Bakhmut in the east, but has not had a major breakthrough against heavily defended Russian lines.

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[–] alflennik@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All the news stories I’ve read have described the Ukrainian progress as “sluggish“ or “slower than desired“ but if it is true that they re-captured this much territory, I mean, that sounds pretty impressive. It’s like the media’s take is always exactly wrong. At the beginning, predicting that Kyiv would fall in days and then predicting that Russia would crumble in the summer. My prediction is that the narrative will shift to “Ukraine is winning“ at about the moment their progress stalls.

[–] AmidFuror@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

"Slower than desired" was quoting the Ukrainian President.

[–] anon2481@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe the 50% figure is comparing to the peak of Russian progress when they held Kherson and others. If we start counting from when the counteroffensive started, it's probably a much smaller figure. However, progress is still progress.

[–] Emu@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah definitely 50% since the first days of the 2022 invasion, not including Donetsk, Crimea and Luhansk which is what they already controlled before then. And there have been phases of land taken and stalemates, but I don't remember any progress being made after March 2022, ruZZia has always been in a retreat or losing territory in every front since then. Yes progress is progress, and I think time is only on Ukraine's side despite what most say.

[–] euj2EUVtuwrch4edp@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Liberated, not recaptured.