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[–] Nougat@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Perhaps most urgently, they are wondering whether his rhetorical turn into more fascist-sounding territory is just his latest public provocation of the left, an evolution in his beliefs or the dropping of a veil.

It's fascism. Say it, you coward.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

It's like watching the fallout of Roko's Basilisk except all they are actually afraid of is fallout from this orange fraud and his supporters. Can't say anything bad because he might become president again and then he'll come after us.

What a fuckin time to be alive.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Fascist rhetoric to scare or anger your political enemies isn’t less fascist

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing is new under the sun. Watch your MAGA neighbors closely. Any representatives with ties to the right mentioning civil war should be just as much an alarm. They're saying their plans out loud. Listen to them.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah these Gravy Seals are just looking for a reason to LARP as Chuck Norris in Delta Force, who secretly believe they are the main character is some chuuni fanfic.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately this "LARP" has tangible and lasting effects on our democracy.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Congratulations America, in our glorification of hyper individualistic selfishness, we made fascism, a system built on oppression and scapegoating, less scary to the ignorant general public than scawy sociawism. Because social cooperation ensuring everyone's basic needs are being met at the expense of a small subset of people getting to live like modern pharaohs is the devil, after all. People we consider lazy deserve to die for the bad decisions they must have made, amirite my fellow Americans?

Maybe if we hadn't made our core value greed, and our mandated core drive in life competing against one another to get moooooore than our neighbors, there wouldn't be nearly so many ignorant people eager to have the state oppress groups of people that don't (yet) look like them and kneecap the competition.

This is live together or die alone in practice. We chose the second one. But hey, look at all the different variations on the chicken sandwich we got for our Faustian Bargain! This place's has pickles! This other place's has a zesty sauce! It was worth all the cruelty for the freedom of capitalism!

And before some sad true believer tells me "the free market has nothing to do with the rise of Trump and the fascist right herp derp" I would defer you to Donald Trump's entire lifelong brand that elevated him to power. What was his idiotic gameshow about again?

[–] Adori@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I blame cars, even if they a symptom, they are definitely a catalyst to the isolation and lack of apathy

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

While I don’t believe cars are the reason, as Mitch Hedberg puts it, they are the Carmex adding the nice shiny highlight to the underlying fever blister.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If these fears are new you haven’t been paying attention.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's gotten a lot more explicit about planning a fascist dictatorship since his coup attempt failed. We won't see a bunch of Republicans refuse to back one in the moment again

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The first time is just practice if there are no consequences. And he suffered no consequences from it yet.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly. Even Hitler went to jail for a while after his first coup attempt. Trump hasn't had to.

[–] shogun5000@lemmy.basedcount.com 13 points 1 year ago

"Authoritarian bent". Lmao, what a cesspool.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If he manages to win again… somehow… I hope all those fucktards who voted for him have their lives destroyed and their children drafted into the military to die horrible and painful deaths in the war with everyone that he will inevitably start.

/rant

They better lock him up quick.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many who deserve death, life, etc Gandalf quote. If Trump is reelected, the whole world will pay the price. Be moved more by pity than bitterness, if you can.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you’re gonna “guilt me,” at least give me the whole quote. You can be a cunt, or you can be lazy—but you can’t be both.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you know the quote, then why shouldn't I be lazy? If you don't, then you have better things to read than the 4am mutterings of a cunt.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I’m glad we agree

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The unfortunate thing is that they would/will still blame Democrats until their dying breath.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Donald J. Trump rose to power with political campaigns that largely attacked external targets, including immigration from predominantly Muslim countries and from south of the United States-Mexico border.

During a Veterans Day speech, Mr. Trump used language that echoed authoritarian leaders who rose to power in Germany and Italy in the 1930s, degrading his political adversaries as “vermin” who needed to be “rooted out.”

These ambitions include using the Justice Department to take vengeance on his political rivals, plotting a vast expansion of presidential power and installing ideologically aligned lawyers in key positions to bless his contentious actions.

He has tested the legal system with broadsides against the integrity of the judiciary, railing against prosecutors, judges and, more recently, a law clerk in his New York fraud trial as “politically biased” and “out of control.”

Crowds at Mr. Trump’s events have generally affirmed his calls to drive out the political establishment and to destroy the “fake news media.” Supporters do not flinch when he praises leaders like Mr. Orban, Xi Jinping of China and Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.

It also often features a cult of personality around a strongman leader, the justification of violence or retribution against opponents, and the repeated denigration of the rule of law, said Peter Hayes, a historian who has studied the rise of fascism.


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[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like this headline comes out every week.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's been getting much more explicit about his desire to end democracy and kill or deport large numbers of people without due process.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I agree, I just wish the media would really take him to task.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

They won't do it with their own voice. I do recommend laying out the case that he's a fascist in a letter to the editor of the nearest paper to you.

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At first I read this as Trump’s dying words…

[–] ElleChaise@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Don't tease us like that.